Current Affairs Ukraine

[Lobster Johnson]

So many lives lost on both sides to satisfy the greed of oligarchs of Russia and Ukraine. That's the truth of it.

Zelensky is rancid. He and his wife are corrupt.

What, in your opinion, would an ideal Ukranian president do differently?

 

[DavidH]

What, in your opinion, would an ideal Ukranian president do differently?

Get his wife to do the Take-A-Break front cover and not just Vogue. Bloody show off.

 

[davek]

What, in your opinion, would an ideal Ukranian president do differently?

There's nothing any alternative could do differently because the nature of Ukraine politics and life is corruption. It's the way they roll.

I'm merely pointing out that all the bollocks over Zelensky is in fact that: bollocks. He's as venal as the rest of them who pocket millions by handing oligarchs a leg up.

 

[davek]

Aye, but Zelensky is a choirboy complared to Putin. As always, the man on street is paying for an idiots dreams/issues.

That feller (Zelensky) has been putting his name to businesses and laundering cash for an oligarch.

It's perverse though isn't it that Kolomoisky has been sanctioned by the U.S. - the U.S. that's been handing billions in arms and cash to his former business partner and hailing him a hero.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

That feller (Zelensky) has been putting his name to businesses and laundering cash for an oligarch.

It's perverse though isn't it that Kolomoisky has been sanctioned by the U.S. - the U.S. that's been handing billions in arms and cash to his former business partner and hailing him a hero.

When did @davek fall down the rabbit hole?! Ukraines corrupt politicians have NOTHING to do with Putins imperialistic ideals. How do you excuse Chechnya (twice) Syria and Georgia? He just likes to blow up innocents, nowt to do with your made up fluff.

 

[LostLegend]

Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Cuba counters human trafficking operations aimed for military recruitment purposes.

cubaminrex.cu

Cuban government accusing Russia of "trafficking" its Russian based citizens into the RU army in fight against Ukraine.

Statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs

Cuba counters human trafficking operations aimed for military recruitment purposes.

The Ministry of the Interior has detected and it is working to neutralize and dismantle a human trafficking network that operates from Russia in order to incorporate Cuban citizens living there and even some living in Cuba, into the military forces that participate in military operations in Ukraine. Attempts of this nature have been neutralized and criminal proceedings have been initiated against those involved in these activities.

Cuba’s enemies are promoting distorted information that seeks to tarnish the country’s image and present it as an accomplice to these actactions that we firmly reject.

Cuba has a firm and clear historical position against mercenarism, and it plays an active role in the United Nations in rejection of the aforementioned practice, being the author of several of the initiatives approved in that forum.

Cuba is not part of the war in Ukraine. It is acting and it will firmly act against those who within the national territory participate in any form of human trafficking for mercenarism or recruitment purposes so that Cuban citizens may raise weapons against any country.

Havana, September 4th, 2023

(Cubaminrex)

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

What I find odd is the disconnect between the western msm - the Americans appear accepting of a ukro defeat, while the ever deluded British media still shout about a Ukrainian victory

Major disagreements in Western mainstream media coverage may indicate major fractures within the intel alliance.

The British are far more invested emotionally in this Ukraine project than the US

There is no disconnect within the intel communities. Both US and U.K. are part of the 5 eyes partnership.

U.K. personnel along with AUS/NZ/CAN work directly alongside US teams. They fly the same missions in the same aircraft, work in the same buildings sitting in adjacent desks, they see and share the same intel.

Also as part of NATO the U.K. and US participate in joint intel missions along with other NATO nations.

From an intel community POV it’s all very aligned. Obviously other elements are in play, (politically biased MSM, elements within opposition political parties and of course military personnel/ other govt agencies with their own private agendas). I’d say that most, if not all of the dissenting views are from this second group.

 

[davek]

When did @davek fall down the rabbit hole?! Ukraines corrupt politicians have NOTHING to do with Putins imperialistic ideals. How do you excuse Chechnya (twice) Syria and Georgia? He just likes to blow up innocents, nowt to do with your made up fluff.

Eh?

That's a bizarre response.

I didn't say Ukraine's rampant corruption was a justification for Russia's invasion. I stated that Zelensky and his wife are up to their necks in graft.

Two wrongs dont make a right.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Eh?

That's a bizarre response.

I didn't say Ukraine's rampant corruption was a justification for Russia's invasion. I stated that Zelensky and his wife are up to their necks in graft.

Two wrongs dont make a right.

Tbf it seems to be a common factor in politics globally. The entire political system needs ripping down.

 

[tsubaki]

So at a time of military concern you would advocate half of NATO splits off under a separate command structure. Russia would love that…what was that old saying again “divide and conquer “. Or have I misunderstood……

No pete, I am saying that one half of NATO should be capable of standing by itself on its own resources, with its own command structure - just as the other half of NATO does.

 

[tsubaki]

its because like NATO, they are the emperor with no clothes.

NATO is but a paper tiger, unless against helpless, weak goat herders. The root cause is classic Western arogance -- "You Ukies better listen to and follow us. Jettison your silly Soviet ways and become more like NATO". Zelensky's blind swallowing of this trope is a major part of his downfall.

The EU would be no better either.

Amputee Wraps Up Marathon Record Quest - The Press United

https://ift.tt/bpn14Zt amputee athlete Jacky Hunt-Broersma says her mantra is, “I can do hard things,” she’s not kidding — the amputee athlete has run 104 marathons in as many days, all using a carbon-fiber prosthesis. Hunt-Broersma, 46, completed that epic quest Saturday near her home in...

thepressunited.com

What a strange site to link to.

 

[Kev The Rat]

What a strange site to link to.

The text was taken from the FT which is behind a paywall so I used that link instead

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

No pete, I am saying that one half of NATO should be capable of standing by itself on its own resources, with its own command structure - just as the other half of NATO does.

And that’s exactly what the US wants. The US can and will stand with its European partners but needs them all to up their game.

The US will have a bigger fight waiting in the pacific and needs to focus on that.

 

[peteblue]

No pete, I am saying that one half of NATO should be capable of standing by itself on its own resources, with its own command structure - just as the other half of NATO does.

I think you’ve just agreed that we would be dividing our forces, having separate command structures etc. Questions, if NATO wanted to assist say Ukraine and the EU didn’t, what would happen. If Russia invaded Poland and Germany and the EU army caved in, would they be looking to USA, U.K. and Canada to bale Europe out again. What if the remnants of NATO said, ‘well it’s not our war and they are not invading us’, would you still expect support. What if the NATO remnants and the EU came into conflict, how would that play out…

 

[peteblue]

And that’s exactly what the US wants. The US can and will stand with its European partners but needs them all to up their game.

The US will have a bigger fight waiting in the pacific and needs to focus on that.

I doubt it. The USA undoubtedly wants the EU countries to up their game in terms of spending, but I very much doubt they want a rival command over which they have little control, unless they wish to stand back from Europe. I appreciate they want to focus on China and the far east, but I doubt that even America wants to do it on their own…..