Current Affairs Ukraine

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davids said:
There are evil people on both sides. But then I'm sure you are aware of that already. Not that you'd ever admit it.🥱
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I don’t know why you are evading the question tbh, forget evil people or your reference to the daily mail or whatever, where do you believe that the Nazis reside, Ukraine ? Russia?…both ??? ……. It was you who raised this Nazis issue after all……
 
peteblue said:
I don’t know why you are evading the question tbh, forget evil people or your reference to the daily mail or whatever, where do you believe that the Nazis reside, Ukraine ? Russia?…both ??? ……. It was you who raised this Nazis issue after all……
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peteblue said:
I don’t know why you are evading the question tbh, forget evil people or your reference to the daily mail or whatever, where do you believe that the Nazis reside, Ukraine ? Russia?…both ??? ……. It was you who raised this Nazis issue after all……
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No the New York Times piece raised the issue. What is your definition of a Nazi anyway?
 
There’s a very real danger that this conflict could be expanded into North Africa.

With Wagner now pulled from the front line and scratching its arse - the danger is that they re-deploy to Libya where they could have an impact on the flow of oil to the west.

US intelligence are very worried by this scenario and have had a number of face-to-face meetings with the LNA and made it clear that any support given to Wagner would be met with “consequences”. Also given that Wagner is now recognised as an international terrorist organisation I’d say the gloves are about to come off in North Africa.
 
I haven't been following it all too closely for a while until the last couple of days but it all seems to be ramping up to some sort of crossroads...where is everyone's thoughts on the likelihood of Nato getting involved directly? Still no chance as before or more chance as time goes on?
 
efcfanwirral said:
I haven't been following it all too closely for a while until the last couple of days but it all seems to be ramping up to some sort of crossroads...where is everyone's thoughts on the likelihood of Nato getting involved directly? Still no chance as before or more chance as time goes on?
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No chance of direct involvement. What NATO is prepared to supply in terms of equipment, intelligence, training and other support will probably evolve.

If a NATO country is directly brought into this through a Russian action, and what the threshold of that action is, then your guess is as good as mine.
 
Prevenger17 said:
I don't and have never supported the war in Iraq or anywhere else the US sticks its nose in. But this was a war of Russian aggression, basically them "pulling a US", and I am considering it on its own terms. You think the Ukrainians who have had family members die and watched their cities get destroyed give two flying f**ks what Tony Blair and Bush did two decades ago?
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Rus started the war because countries gang up and the alliance’s sphere of influence (enlargement to the east) move within 800km of Rus’s capital.

Btw I don’t support war because innocent citizens will suffer the most.
 
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