Current Affairs Ukraine

[Spadge Vernacular]

No mate it's not at all - the reason is because a van was loaded with explosives hidden in film tapes a guy was hired to deliver it and was blown up, killing several other civilians.

Every action cannot be blamed on the initial causal one.

Ah, got it. ISIS attacking infidel bridges innit. ?

 

[davids]

Hit the Kerch bridge, eh? While this has some hefty logistics implications, it also seems like a psy-op statement of intent. We're coming for Crimea, and we're not leaving you anywhere to run. So if you come over here...we're going to kill you.

The biggest risk factor right now IMO is this:

Zaporizhzhia on the brink: How deteriorating conditions at the nuclear power plant could lead to disaster

A Ukrainian workers’ union representative recounts the deteriorating working and living conditions at Europe's largest nuclear power plant occupied by Russian forces—and how they could lead to a disaster.

thebulletin.org

Given that the Russians have now disconnected the plant from the grid via shelling, I think their reply will be to let the plant go and blame Ukraine for the result. They can't fuel the generators without diesel, and that will lead to an accident in short order.

So you honestly believe the Russians shelled their own troops stationed there.??

 

[DualityNSNO]

Maybe read it,it is online.

The grain one is, nothing else with the words "turkey ukraine russia peace" that I can find.

 

[davids]

He must be forgetting about the old Polonium 210 and the Novichok… Never mind the invasions of Georgia, Crimea and mainland Ukraine or the Chechnya catastrophe too come to think of it!

Iraq, Libya Afghanistan etc

 

[davids]

The grain one is, nothing else with the words "turkey ukraine russia peace" that I can find.

It's there,I posted the link earlier in the thread. 3/10 you must try harder.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Ah, got it. ISIS attacking infidel bridges innit. ?

Hang on, I don't think it was ISIS, Russia are saying it was a fuel tanker accidient.



@davids should Ireland should accept their lands being occupied, please?

 

[bluestevon]

I suppose if you are drip fed propoganda by a man who lies about everything, denounces imperialism whislt invading another country and trying to annex large swathes of its lands through nonsense referendums, whilst listening to your old mother in law who was conditioned in soviet era Russia and her daughter, the outcome is what we are seeing on here.

The most surprising outcome for me is @davids turning out to be a Dubliner, lodgeman and unionist. A fairly unique mix.

Neither of whom ever talk about politics or have any actual interest in it btw.

Remember you vaulted my post on Crimea from 2014? At that point is been in Russia about 6/7 months total, didn't even speak the language - but apparently had absorbed all the propoganda by osmosis


Completely off topic, but my aunties dad was the head of the Liverpool orange lodge, disowned her and never spoke to her or saw the kids after she married my uncle (mums bro) who was a Catholic.

 

[davids]

Hi mate, should Ireland should accept their lands being occupied, please?

Some interesting information in the media of late on that very subject. But then you won't have noticed it. Twitter links of the war taking up most of your time as they do.

 

[bluestevon]

Or stand infront of a mirror.

The options are many.

Steveski has 800kgs of potatoes stored at his pad.

80kgs of peppers in the freezer too mate, the advantage of huge seasonal price differences.

 

[davids]

The mind boggles how people genuinely think that you can sit down and discuss anything with Russia.

Their conditions, even on the 1st day of this, was total unconditional surrender. How anyone thinks this is reasonable is absolutely beyond me.

I think being honest looking at your posts most of this is beyond you.

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

Simple yes or no answer, was this a terrorist attack?

No - my turn now. Was the attack on the shopping mall in Kremenchuk a terrorist attack? Simple yes or no will suffice.

 

[DualityNSNO]

It's there,I posted the link earlier in the thread. 3/10 you must try harder.

Yes, you did - to the grain deal. They brokered something that no one knows what it was but it was definitely good and then big baddies NATO pulled out.

Trump (C).

 

[bluestevon]

No - my turn now. Was the attack on the shopping mall in Kremenchuk a terrorist attack? Simple yes or no will suffice.

If it was the Intended target then 100% yes

 

[tsubaki]

If the latest report is true, the attack on the Kerch bridge has turned out to be more symbolic than anything.

After clearing the wreckage and some repair work then trains will be running again from 8pm tonight. One of the two road bridge lanes out though.

Looks also like a remote detonation on explosives concealed on the truck, Russian civilian driver another man and a woman in passing cars all killed. I'm guessing few will condemn what is inarguably a state sponsored terrorist action.

The three biggest problems with this theory:

i) how do you mug the driver into transporting it unawares (when PIRA used to do this they kidnapped the drivers family and told them they'd be killed if they didn't do it)?
ii) how do you sneak enough explosives aboard the truck to drop a bridge without being likely to be detected by the driver or the security that might inspect it?
iii) how do you remotely detonate it at the appropriate time? To get the train as well as the right part of the bridge you'd need to see it, which means being close by or having a real-time overview of the scene (which means a drone or helicopter)

As I said earlier I have my doubts this was a truck bomb anyway, at least of the kind seen in previous truck bombings in the middle east.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Neither of whom ever talk about politics or have any actual interest in it btw.

Did you not say that your mother in law looks back on the Soviet era fondly and supports Putin

Remember you vaulted my post on Crimea from 2014? At that point is been in Russia about 6/7 months total, didn't even speak the language - but apparently had absorbed all the propoganda by osmosis

Is this related to you needing almost a ton of potatoes?

Completely off topic, but my aunties dad was the head of the Liverpool orange lodge, disowned her and never spoke to her or saw the kids after she married my uncle (mums bro) who was a Catholic.

Well from what I hear it was a terrible decision but as you say, every action cannot be blamed on the initial causal one.