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[Mutzo Nutzo]

Well thats classic Blitzkrieg you talking, or in proper German term a "Bewegungskrieg" (Maneuver Warfare), basis of all German/Prussian strategy since 18th century.

Problem is that they are fighting opponent who outnumber them in all important components of that strategy, air, armor and artillery, and not Iraqi who were surrendering en masse first chance they got. And of course a drones, they are absolute game changer, they make artillery so much deadlier and accurate.

When Germans were rolling up everyone at the start of WW2, they had advantage in all main three main components (air, armor and infantry), when Americans crushed poorly equipped Iraqi army, they again had massive quality advantage, Ukrainians on other hand are still grossly outnumbered in artillery, armor and air power.

I think the situation in Kherson Oblast is a little different - it’s been flipped whereby it’s the Russians who are entrenched in static defensive positions and it’s the Ukes who have the advantage of fire and manoeuvre.

The Russian advantage in numbers and equipment has been all but nullified by Ukraine over the past few weeks. They’ve destroyed Russian fuel and ammo dumps blown all the bridges across the Dnipro severely damaged Russian EW and C2 capability as well as degraded Ru AD in and around Kherson.

Russia still has more of everything but they are struggling now to resupply anything west of the Dnipro.

Time now for manoeuvre warfare - encircle Russian troop concentrations - who are short in supplies and ammo then pick them off.

IMO Ukranian CAS will play a big part over the next week or so.

 

[tsubaki]

It's a common myth that the entire Heer went into the Battle of France as an elite, well equipped and thoroughly motorised force. It was far from it.

That's not to say they didn't have some great equipment, but the majority of the Panzer divisions were equipped with MKI and MKII tanks - or tankettes*.

From recollection, I think it's <18% being the more powerful MKIVs, with their 7.5cm gun. The French Char DI and B35 were far better tanks and in number.

In terms of the Luftwaffe, they had fantastic fighters and ground attack aircraft, but their medium bombers were a serious concern highlighted by Milch himself.

*at best, a light tank with machine guns or light cannons.

Indeed, and understanding how that myth became so common is probably a long overdue subject for some academic to look into; one would imagine it was put about by the failures and incompetents here and in France whose systems failed so horrifically in 1940.

Not sure about the Luftwaffe bit though, I'd argue that with the exception of the FW-190 and the ME-262 they never had anything that was for a time vastly better than its contemporaries (like the Lancaster, Mustang or Mosquito were for the Allies, or the Zero was for the Japanese). As with most other things in 1940 it was how the equipment was deployed rather than how good it was.

 

[PhilM]

Indeed, and understanding how that myth became so common is probably a long overdue subject for some academic to look into; one would imagine it was put about by the failures and incompetents here and in France whose systems failed so horrifically in 1940.

Not sure about the Luftwaffe bit though, I'd argue that with the exception of the FW-190 and the ME-262 they never had anything that was for a time vastly better than its contemporaries (like the Lancaster, Mustang or Mosquito were for the Allies, or the Zero was for the Japanese). As with most other things in 1940 it was how the equipment was deployed rather than how good it was.

The Bf109E was a very good fighter and even the G variant later in the war, although overshadowed by other fighters, was a commendable weapon.

It was used very effectively early on, but many argue that the ineffective choices made by the OKW limited its impacted during the Battle of Britain.

You've got the likes of the FW Condor 200, the Stuka (admittedly defunct by mid-war) and their light bombers were very effective early on in the war.

The issue is that they neglected their medium and heavy bombers very early on against the wishes of Wever, which from '40 onwards impacted greatly.

On the point of the fantastically mobile Wehrmacht, only 10% was mechanised in 1940 compared to 100% of the BEF. During Barbarossa how did they improve it?

They used the thousands of French military trucks they pilfered. To your point about why they became so well thought of? I'd put it down to two things...

... incompetencies on our (the allies) behalf and some phenomenal generals on their side.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Germany Raids Companies that Exported ‘Dual-Use’ Chemicals to Russia

German customs officers on Tuesday raided a network of companies suspected of selling precursor chemicals to Russia that could be used to manufacture chemical and biological weapons.

www.occrp.org

 

[davids]

Watching some videos, people die like flies there, on both sides

Not to mention its incredibly flat terrain in the south, zero cover, tanks and APCs getting easily exposed by drones and targeted by artillery. While in the east (Donbas) its gruesome trench warfare

There's an American military report online that is saying this war has heralded the end of the tank and close support helicopter. It's been proven they can be so easily take out by the relatively cheap javelin missiles. US using this as a weapons proving ground,sad so many civilians have to pay the price of the research.

 

[davids]

Germany Raids Companies that Exported ‘Dual-Use’ Chemicals to Russia

German customs officers on Tuesday raided a network of companies suspected of selling precursor chemicals to Russia that could be used to manufacture chemical and biological weapons.

www.occrp.org

The standard of propaganda is pitiful. Russia as will the US and NATO already have plenty of the chemicals needed to poison the planet ten times over.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

 

[davids]

There's an American military report online that is saying this war has heralded the end of the tank and close support helicopter. It's been proven they can be so easily take out by the relatively cheap javelin missiles. US using this as a weapons proving ground,sad so many civilians have to pay the price of the research.

Then this popped up.?

US Anti-Tank Missiles Are ‘Struggling To Fire’ In Ukraine; Leaked Documents Reveal A Poor Hit-To-Miss Ratio

The Javelin Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (ATGM), 5,000 of which have been supplied to Ukraine by the United States to fight Russia, have a poor hit-to-miss ratio, range, and technical malfunctions, as per internal documents from its manufacturer Raytheon that leaked on Russian social media. The...

eurasiantimes.com

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

This guy desperate for someone to bite on his pro-russian waffle

 

[ramacca]

Then this popped up.?

US Anti-Tank Missiles Are ‘Struggling To Fire’ In Ukraine; Leaked Documents Reveal A Poor Hit-To-Miss Ratio

The Javelin Anti-Tank Guided Missiles (ATGM), 5,000 of which have been supplied to Ukraine by the United States to fight Russia, have a poor hit-to-miss ratio, range, and technical malfunctions, as per internal documents from its manufacturer Raytheon that leaked on Russian social media. The...

eurasiantimes.com

Good job the UK are not supplying Ukraine with warships.

HMS Prince of Wales may miss US jet trials after breakdown
1 day ago

 

[peteblue]

German measures with regards to ensure gas supplies have been very effective. Let's hope we all get through winter without too much suffering.

Long term though, like most countries, we will need to move away from gas and coal. This is the unwanted kick we needed.

Not so. A mixed bag of fuel ensures that there’s no over reliance on a single supplier or product. For instance, in our pub, while we have electricity prices nailed down, oil will cost a fortune, so we will put more coal on the fires to give a cosy glow and burn more wood. Having alternatives is the way to get through this……

 

[peteblue]

This guy desperate for someone to bite on his pro-russian waffle

There‘s one or two on here who I believe are Russian operatives…..

 

[peteblue]

I think the situation in Kherson Oblast is a little different - it’s been flipped whereby it’s the Russians who are entrenched in static defensive positions and it’s the Ukes who have the advantage of fire and manoeuvre.

The Russian advantage in numbers and equipment has been all but nullified by Ukraine over the past few weeks. They’ve destroyed Russian fuel and ammo dumps blown all the bridges across the Dnipro severely damaged Russian EW and C2 capability as well as degraded Ru AD in and around Kherson.

Russia still has more of everything but they are struggling now to resupply anything west of the Dnipro.

Time now for manoeuvre warfare - encircle Russian troop concentrations - who are short in supplies and ammo then pick them off.

IMO Ukranian CAS will play a big part over the next week or so.

Indeed, you can have as many men as you like, but without fuel or munitions you are stuffed…..

 

[peteblue]

Good job the UK are not supplying Ukraine with warships.

HMS Prince of Wales may miss US jet trials after breakdown
1 day ago

Why don’t you just [Poor language removed]…..

 

[Mutzo Nutzo]

There‘s one or two on here who I believe are Russian operatives…..

Useful fools