Current Affairs UK General Election July

[Harryflashman]

Yeah having youth clubs and access to a ping pong table would solve all our youth issues, including knife crime..

I agree about apprenticeships though. That should be funded and encouraged as much as possible.

You don’t think giving kids something to do helps them with their life , Engaging with them ? Youth services includes all kinds of engagements to dismiss it as ‘ping pong ‘ is a bit of a cliche isn’t it ?

 

[Del-boy]

You don’t think giving kids something to do helps them with their life , Engaging with them ? Youth services includes all kinds of engagements to dismiss it as ‘ping pong ‘ is a bit of a cliche isn’t it ?

Isn’t that what this policy is? Giving kids something to do? I don’t agree with it and it will never get off the ground anyway. So it’s all a moot point.

 

[Harryflashman]

Isn’t that what this policy is? Giving kids something to do? I don’t agree with it and it will never get off the ground anyway. So it’s all a moot point.

Well I’d suggest engaging with youngsters & children and giving them something to become involved in , something that they want to do has more chance of a positive impact than telling adults they’re compelled to work for free at the weekend or join the military.

 

[PhilM]

While I don't like the thought of mandatory 2 year NS being made a legal requirement, there is a possibility that something needs to be done given the precarious state of the world at the moment. A million or so 'reserve' troops who are trained would act as a deterrent if nothing else. If something kicks off in 10 years time it's not like we didn't see the warning signs coming so doing nothing and hoping it doesn't isn't a real option.

I would like it to be shorter, perhaps take in vocational education at the same time, lose the hand to hand/knife combat and kill or be killed mentality training elements, as we don't want to have thousands of young men who can take people apart in a pub fight.

At the end of it they would have the ability to take apart and fire guns, work tanks and other heavy machinery, with maintenance and servicing knowledge, fly drones and so on. They'd come out with a vocation certificate, hopefully an understanding of the importance of exercise, good diet and discipline. If they could handsomely paid (for a teenager) for a positive experience that someone would actually like to do then it could be beneficial to all. If called up (hopefully volunteered) they could have the refresher and combat training and they would be ready to go in the fastest possible time frame.

The issue is they probably won't do any of that so it will just be standard recruit training and I'm not up for that. As with any idea it's all in the detail and execution.

There's a lot of sense to this. In essence, you're saying focus on trades such logistic (RLC), engineering (RE), trades (REME) and communication (RCS).

Give them 18 months, get them through fourteen weeks of basic training and time to develop a trade, which the army can use and they can when they're out.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Yeah having youth clubs and access to a ping pong table would solve all our youth issues, including knife crime..

What a tit, I reckon del-trotter might have me ignored. Bliss.

 

[Mikey_Fitzgerald]

I was working full time at 18 , I was actually also working when I could at weekends (around Everton ) to raise extra cash . Taking the military out of it If you’d told me you can work weekends for no pay it’d have cost me money , my limited free time and Everton . I’d have been furious wouldn't you be ?

I understand there is a debate to be had about whether long term there is a need for a vocational /national service ideal . As has been said , more eloquently than I can , If that’s the case then have that debate but make it cross party and don’t rush it out in five mins with your plans on the bag of a fag packet . If the governments concern is the military and the security of the nation then don’t cut defence spending .

It’s more performative rubbish to excite deluded people who crave to impose the national service they never experienced on others .

What annoys me is that people who didn't have to do something like this, and benefitted from the fact they didn't have to, are now going to make others do it without a care for how it will effect them

 

[Rita_Poon]

What annoys me is that people who didn't have to do something like this, and benefitted from the fact they didn't have to, are now going to make others do it without a care for how it will effect them

Let's take a little earning potential away from you whilst house prices continue to soar, enjoy a lifetime of servitude, but hey, I'm alright Jack!

 

[Groucho]

What annoys me is that people who didn't have to do something like this, and benefitted from the fact they didn't have to, are now going to make others do it without a care for how it will effect them

It’s not happening.

It’s only been a desperate attempt to get votes from people who collectively are under the impression they fought in WWII but were born after it.

 

[LinekersLegs]

These people have convinced themselves not only did they do national service , it was the making of them and they also fought in both world wars .

I’ve heard cleverly a few times today talking about taking young people out of their social bubbles and ensuring they mix with disparate groups of people . Whilst the person introducing the scheme was videoed as a young person talking about how he didn’t associate with working class people.

I swear I think the whole world is going mad

If this is an attempt at social engineering to get people out of their “ bubbles” then it seems like the older generations are far more likely to need help to expand their cicle.

Instead of national service for 18 year olds how about an updated “Dad’s army” -;get the pensioners who would vote for the Tory scheme out visiting mosques, learning cyber security and serving food at homeless shelters

 

[LinekersLegs]

 

[gonetomorrow]

If this is an attempt at social engineering to get people out of their “ bubbles” then it seems like the older generations are far more likely to need help to expand their cicle.

Instead of national service for 18 year olds how about an updated “Dad’s army” -;get the pensioners who would vote for the Tory scheme out visiting mosques, learning cyber security and serving food at homeless shelters

Hear hear! You could call it Fair's Fair.
Whilst our recalcitrant youth are square-bashing we oldies do our bit in the community. Here's one in the eye for you Mr Putin!

Tories must be desperate. I really don't think Sunak believes a word that emanates from his mouth. He's sounding increasingly hysterical actually.

 

[jamieni]

Hear hear! You could call it Fair's Fair.
Whilst our recalcitrant youth are square-bashing we oldies do our bit in the community. Here's one in the eye for you Mr Putin!

Tories must be desperate. I really don't think Sunak believes a word that emanates from his mouth. He's sounding increasingly hysterical actually.

I think he’s kind of just having a total laugh since he probably realises he’s out the door in 8 weeks lol

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

So in essence 18 year old will need to either spend a year in the army or do several weekends of unpaid work in order to even have the privilege to be able to apply for a job on binman. Fast becoming 2019 Mays dementia tax.

 

[Jebus_lives]

If this is an attempt at social engineering to get people out of their “ bubbles” then it seems like the older generations are far more likely to need help to expand their cicle.

Instead of national service for 18 year olds how about an updated “Dad’s army” -;get the pensioners who would vote for the Tory scheme out visiting mosques, learning cyber security and serving food at homeless shelters

If you take this idea and mash it together with Sunaks compulsory voluntary service/national service you've got something pretty similar to New Labours citizen service idea.

 

[toffee83]

The party of Tory continuity