Current Affairs UK General Election July

[JimmyJeffers]

I've said a few times over the past couple of months that I don't expect a huge amount to change because the tax burden is already at historic highs, the government is still spending more than it generates despite this, and also despite this, public services are in a pickle. Couple all of that with the fact that inflation and interest remain somewhat unfavourable to simply printing a load of money, and it's hard to see how things can be an awful lot different.

That's my rationale. I was just wondering what yours was and what your left wing party of choice would do differently.

Think this Labour government will have a very short honey moon period and be on the back foot very quickly because of this.
They have tried to temper expectations a bit but pretty difficult to promote yourself as the party of ‘change’ when the main changes will be that you’re not giving money to all your mates or calling foreign people cockroaches.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Kettles my head this , thie Government have overseen the largest tax rises since the Second World War and I think it’s fair to say probably the biggest decline in satisfaction with services but Tories still parrot this line .

Literally everything is falling over. They blame every institution for waste or being woke etc, but its all happened under their watch.

Even their own cheerleaders in the right wing press flay them for tax rises. But they only want them because the cuts don't effect them and it lines their pockets.

I don't think it'll wash. A lot of people need and depend on the public realm to deliver services, hell, to do simple basic things like keep the street lights on or collect waste, clean the streets. Never mind the NHS or social services.

People, at the moment, would rather see better services delivered.

 

[Thomasc]

Get this out the way now and start the fightback against the centre-right and far right.

New party of the left for social democratic values. It's coming soon.

Yes

For once we can all agree. Get these thieving opportunistic scum bags out, some grown ups in, then if they show the same values once elected they will come under the same levels of scrutiny.

A left leaning party would be great, but George Galloway? Ffs!

My dream is Starmer once elected at the press conference takes off his mask to reveal himself as Andy Burnham. We can but dream!

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Think this Labour government will have a very short honey moon period and be on the back foot very quickly because of this.
They have tried to temper expectations a bit but pretty difficult to promote yourself as the party of ‘change’ when the main changes will be that you’re not giving money to all your mates or calling foreign people cockroaches.

They will most likely give a warts and all analysis of the state of the books assuming they do win. How they prioritise will be what gets the most scrutiny, or so it would seem.

 

[Xizor]

Not much I can do whilst the political system is rigged for the elites.

Honest question: which political system isn't rigged for the elites?

Bonus points if that system has existed not just as a hypothetical way of running a state, but has a real-world/historical example that has endured.

 

[FrenchDarrenBent]

It has been done before. Public debt is high but lower than the G7 average. France and the US have higher debt and face similar challenges.
Taxes can be reworked, as there is some wiggle room in my opinion: https://ifs.org.uk/taxlab/taxlab-key-questions/how-do-uk-tax-revenues-compare-internationally

You have to single out the things you want to do and dare to invest in what makes a economy flourish. Public transport, energy (nuclear or wind), housing, decent roads. Provide support for young startups... (Rejoin the effing EU if you really want growth)

No excuses for Labour though. They have to act. Besides, we were in quite a pickle in 2010 (austerity, the bank crash) as well, and look how hard the Tories succeeded in bringing change to this country.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Think this Labour government will have a very short honey moon period and be on the back foot very quickly because of this.
They have tried to temper expectations a bit but pretty difficult to promote yourself as the party of ‘change’ when the main changes will be that you’re not giving money to all your mates or calling foreign people cockroaches.

I mean, they need to copy the Tory playbook, which is blame the preceding party (Labour) for a decade at least!

 

[toffee83]

I've said a few times over the past couple of months that I don't expect a huge amount to change because the tax burden is already at historic highs, the government is still spending more than it generates despite this, and also despite this, public services are in a pickle. Couple all of that with the fact that inflation and interest remain somewhat unfavourable to simply printing a load of money, and it's hard to see how things can be an awful lot different.

That's my rationale. I was just wondering what yours was and what your left wing party of choice would do differently.

I haven't got a party of choice to answer that. There's not even an Independant on the ballot where I am.

I'm just surprised at people championing a Thatcherite who'd rather serve Israel than the people of the UK, and expecting change.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I mean, they need to copy the Tory playbook, which is blame the preceding party (Labour) for a decade at least!

Yea that’s so tiresome. Wish parties wouldn’t do that.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Think this Labour government will have a very short honey moon period and be on the back foot very quickly because of this.
They have tried to temper expectations a bit but pretty difficult to promote yourself as the party of ‘change’ when the main changes will be that you’re not giving money to all your mates or calling foreign people cockroaches.

You would hope that because they haven't promised the earth then they've managed expectations a bit, but I look at the situation in Czech and the post-Babis government haven't been popular at all and Babis is quite likely to get back in again. The strategy of promising the earth and then either pretending its been delivered or blaming 3rd parties for it not being delivered seems to be enough to pull the wool over many people's eyes.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

I haven't got a party of choice to answer that. There's not even an Independant on the ballot where I am.

I'm just surprised at people championing a Thatcherite who'd rather serve Israel than the people of the UK, and expecting change.

Tbf, there are multiple horrors happening all over the world but I think it is fair to say that the vast majority will be voting with the state that the UK is in front and centre of their minds.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Braverman in the Telegraph declaring the election over. A thinly veiled early tilt at a leadership bid. Apparently "We failed to cut immigration or tax, or to deal with bet zero and the woke policies we have presided over for 14 years". Before cosying up to Farage.


Jesus H christ.

 

[COYBL25]

I mean, they need to copy the Tory playbook, which is blame the preceding party (Labour) for a decade at least!

Then move onto plan B, keep on blaming the pandemic and Dave`s mate invasion of Ukraine.

 

[Charro]

I don’t think starmer is in any way a Thatcherite.

When Thatcher was destroying the country he was campaigning and writing for some very left wing publications in university.

I think he’s just got himself caught up in saying whatever needs to be said to move up the ladder and gain power, but he’s far from a Thatcherite.

We’ll find out what he truly is when he’s in power.

Will be very interesting to see the reaction to a Labour Party in the age of social media.

Last time Labour were in power Facebook was still relatively new.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Braverman in the Telegraph declaring the election over. A thinly veiled early tilt at a leadership bid. Apparently "We failed to cut immigration or tax, or to deal with bet zero and the woke policies we have presided over for 14 years". Before cosying up to Farage.


Jesus H christ.

Looking at polling in her new constituency, looks like she’ll get re-elected. Labour and Lib Dem’s are fairly equal. if people voted tactically she’d be gone.