Uefa New Rules on Finance and Spending for European Clubs.

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Im sure everyones seen this over the last day or so, what impact do people think this will have on Everton and how will it effect us in the next three years of restructuring and going on into the future? Will it level up the playing feild or really cut the legs from underneath us in terms of structuring deals and borrowing to buy?

BBC Article on the new rules:






Profligate clubs face being banned from the Champions League and Europa League after European football's governing body Uefa approved new plans.

The example of Portsmouth, who became the first Premier League team to go into administration, has highlighted the financial excesses in England.

Uefa president Michel Platini has now passed rules which would force clubs to operate within their means.

Clubs will only be able to spend what they themselves generate.

Big cash injections from wealthy benefactors like the owners of Chelsea and Manchester City would also be restricted under Uefa's Financial Fair Play plan.

The system is being phased in and bans would not be able to be imposed theoretically until the 2014-15 season at the earliest.

Clubs are required to restructure themselves over the next three seasons so they are financially solvent.

Uefa general secretary Gianni Infantino said: "The main rule is the break-even requirement which will be phased in over the next three years.

"It is not as easy to swallow for everyone but everyone understands it is necessary. They are there not to punish clubs, they are there to help clubs. We don't want to kill anyone, this is why we have a phased-in approach."

But money invested in stadiums and youth development will not be included in the number-crunching.
The rules will also forbid clubs owing money to their rivals, players and staff or the tax authorities at the end of the season.

Portsmouth were a glaring example of a club which owed millions in unpaid transfer fees, image rights, tax and VAT.

Earlier this year, Infantino estimated 50% of clubs in Europe were making losses and 20% were in financial peril.

Big transfer fees can still be paid but clubs will need to generate sufficient funds through ticket sales, TV money and commercial revenue.

"If clubs want to spend €50, 60 or 70 million, why not, provided they have the money coming from their revenues, this will continue in the future. The problem is when you don't have the money," Infantino added.

The European Clubs' Association's president, former German international Karl-Heinz Rummenigge, welcomed the move, commenting: "The measures will shape the future of European football into a more responsible business and ultimately a more sustainable one."
 
Its a bad idea thats doomed to fail.
If it works it will make players like Torres worth 5mil instead of 40 mil.

for me the cap will increase again as team like man u who have 75k losers every week playing stupid prices, will be able to afford players that teams with lower capcities, like Lpool for example can't. As there income will be less.

Whats our current turnover anyone know?
 
Its a bad idea thats doomed to fail.
If it works it will make players like Torres worth 5mil instead of 40 mil.

for me the cap will increase again as team like man u who have 75k losers every week playing stupid prices, will be able to afford players that teams with lower capcities, like Lpool for example can't. As there income will be less.

Whats our current turnover anyone know?
our is about 80,000,000
manu 225,000,000
liverpool was in the hundreds of millions but have lost champions league money
this is why we need a new ground and somebody else to pay for it
even newcastle earn more than us and they were in the championship
 
we are in the best position to cope with the new regulations as we don't really over spend,
but everyone else above us is screwed us,Arsenal and blackburn fighting for the title after the new rules are forced through
 
You've got to say that it's a sensible move to prevent the likes of Chelsea, City and Real blowing everyone else out of the water. The knock on effect is that other teams won't be over-stretching themselves trying to keep up.

It will put the emphasis on good management and good house-keeping rather than buying power. I think that Alex Ferguson is one of the first managers to decide to moderate his spending in the best interests of the club. Credit to him for that.

The upshot for Everton is that, if other clubs will no longer have the open chequebook of a billionaire owner at their disposal, then we will not need to seek a billionaire owner ourselves in order to compete. The focus will switch to extending our capacity, expanding our fanbase and developing new revenue streams. In other words, all the areas that a club in our financial position should excel at anyway.
 
There are pluses and minus to this for me, on one hand it will restrict City and Chelsea to a degree (15mill) a season and see investment in the clubs. Yet in terms of buying players money must be given up front and cant be structured over a period of time anymore.

For us i fear, without being able to lead a facility lead approach, it may mean after serviceing of our debt, and a wage to turnover ratio touching 60 % wont leave an awfull lot left in the transfer kitty.

Yet hopefully this will put a fire under the club to build a new ground. If not expect ticket rises coming to a credit card near you soon.
 
There are pluses and minus to this for me, on one hand it will restrict City and Chelsea to a degree (15mill) a season and see investment in the clubs. Yet in terms of buying players money must be given up front and cant be structured over a period of time anymore.

For us i fear, without being able to lead a facility lead approach, it may mean after serviceing of our debt, and a wage to turnover ratio touching 60 % wont leave an awfull lot left in the transfer kitty.

Yet hopefully this will put a fire under the club to build a new ground. If not expect ticket rises coming to a credit card near you soon.

Its sad that in hard economic times like these, when there is a big call to give football back to the working class and make attending games more affordable, that neilers statement above is inevetable, especially for a club like us, who havent got a massive global following to keep pumping money into the clubs bank account through merchandise.
 
Interesting, I think Chelski will manage fine with this rule (they were already doing well before Red Rom's takeover) but could this mean Citeh might sink back to mid-table mediocrity?
 
Interesting, I think Chelski will manage fine with this rule (they were already doing well before Red Rom's takeover) but could this mean Citeh might sink back to mid-table mediocrity?

Chelsea were in a perilous financial state before Abramovich took over. The club still owe him £726m! They have the highest wages bill in English football history and made a pre-tax loss of £47m last year.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article7096683.ece

I'm sure it's on Platini's mind to stop British clubs from dominating the Champion's League, as they have done for the last five or six years, by buying the world's best players.
 
Chelsea were in a perilous financial state before Abramovich took over. The club still owe him £726m! They have the highest wages bill in English football history and made a pre-tax loss of £47m last year.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/chelsea/article7096683.ece

I'm sure it's on Platini's mind to stop British clubs from dominating the Champion's League, as they have done for the last five or six years, by buying the world's best players.

Nail on the head mate. The English league is too successfull in terms of revenue. Platini doesn't like it.....so make up new rules....

If it was the other way round and the Italian league was more prolific than the English, nobody would say a word....
 
Im sure everyones seen this over the last day or so, what impact do people think this will have on Everton and how will it effect us in the next three years of restructuring and going on into the future? Will it level up the playing feild or really cut the legs from underneath us in terms of structuring deals and borrowing to buy?

BBC Article on the new rules:

I believe this is only positive for us. We already have a business model that operates along these lines anyway. We're best suited to this and therefore it in our interests for clubs with "sugar daddy's" will be restricted.

it'll be more of a straight fight... quality (Everton) versus the rest minus their (oil) cash

Oh and as for INFRASTRUCTURE.... like Stadia.

There are no limits on spending or financing.

SO THIS IS ONLY A POSITIVE FOR EVERTON.

(incase anyone thought that this was affected. It's not)
 
There are pluses and minus to this for me, on one hand it will restrict City and Chelsea to a degree (15mill) a season and see investment in the clubs. Yet in terms of buying players money must be given up front and cant be structured over a period of time anymore.

For us i fear, without being able to lead a facility lead approach, it may mean after serviceing of our debt, and a wage to turnover ratio touching 60 % wont leave an awfull lot left in the transfer kitty.

Yet hopefully this will put a fire under the club to build a new ground. If not expect ticket rises coming to a credit card near you soon.

Spending/loans on stadia development are not affected by this as it's classed as infrastructure.

Therefore it's a win win rule change for us.
 
Well tbh i dont think it will effect us that much. We may not see such exhorbitant fees, but the top clubs, with the highest turnover will still be able to offer much higher wages than us. We'll still be lagging Man U/City, Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs and Liverpool :( It should effect clubs like Villa and B'ham -vely tho. And im sure teams will work out ways to finigle things into the infrastructure/etc section that allows investment. Can the club afford to raise tickets prices massively without losing attendance? Whats the point in charging more per ticket if you only make the same net £££ cos less people go to the game? (except for lower assosciated overheads/costs) Surely a fuller stadium is preferential over a few more £££ on the top line?
 
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