2025/26 Tyler Dibling

Because they ain’t playing and could make us a decent profit to buy better, with gana 37 and probably going or
Not playing as much next season . We will be buying a new midfielder, plus we have Armstrong and we have to buy Rhol.

Patterson, Myko, Tim, Alcaraz,
McNeil and Beto could make us 60 plus in profit. Or would rather us sell Branthwaite or Ndiaye

We're not going to turn over that amount of players. Moyes was playing Tim regularly this season. Then you've got to consider if we get Europe we will need a bigger squad.

Then its the age and quality. You're not going to get better replacements than Tim or Alcaraz who are going to be squad players to Ndiaye, KDH, and possibly Grealish IMO.

Additionally, aren't the new FFP rules coming in? Which is now down to wage vs turnover. So transfer fees aren't going to be an issue long term if the owners want to spend.

I don't think we'll look to sell but won't reject offers if they'd come in. The main players who'll be out the door will be McNeil, Beto, Patto, possibly Myko as his contract is up in June. Thats already a lot to see out the door and would leave us with around a 20 man squad.
 
We're not going to turn over that amount of players. Moyes was playing Tim regularly this season. Then you've got to consider if we get Europe we will need a bigger squad.

Then its the age and quality. You're not going to get better replacements than Tim or Alcaraz who are going to be squad players to Ndiaye, KDH, and possibly Grealish IMO.

Additionally, aren't the new FFP rules coming in? Which is now down to wage vs turnover. So transfer fees aren't going to be an issue long term if the owners want to spend.

I don't think we'll look to sell but won't reject offers if they'd come in. The main players who'll be out the door will be McNeil, Beto, Patto, possibly Myko as his contract is up in June. Thats already a lot to see out the door and would leave us with around a 20 man squad.
I disagree, but we can see what happens in the summer
I think we can easily see 6 or 7 out the door you talk about Europe and we will need a much better squad and Tim and Alcaraz can’t get a look in now. And I’m not sure he was starting him regularly seems to only start when Moyes has had nobody else. If we hadn’t committed to buying Rhol then I’d say maybe we can keep Tim. But at 23 he’s no close
To be a starter,
Armstrong is/will be ahead of him very soon, the club want a new midfielder and if Moyes stays you can see gana getting a new deal. So new midfielder, Garner, KDH, Armstrong, Rhol and gana

Regarding the new rules. We will still need to sell players
 
Considering he is our second ever highest transfer and, by all reports, is the closest thing to Bale/Gazza people have seen, I think this is a daft take. Either the people who scouted him are absolutely useless and should be sacked, the people who sanctioned the purchase have no clue about value and should be sacked or the manager is useless to get one of the better young talents to show ANYTHING all season besides seconds of appearances. If he's cack in training that's on both the manager, the scouting team AND Dibling. I said the first half of the season it would have made a hell of a lot more sense to spend 20m on a winger and 40m on a striker than 40m on a winger and 20m on Barry. What do I know tho, I just look at how the teams are set up and where we need to improve.
When the attacking three behind the striker consisted of Jack , KDH and Ndiaye I just never saw him being a regular fixture on the pitch while they were all fit not because of any limitations on Tyler's part, more due to Moyes insistence on keeping options he deemed superior to Dibling on the pitch , and it's pretty established if Moyes is fond of a player he's not leaving the game till at least 85th minute. With Jack being incapacitated till the end of the season, of course this all theoretical , it seems he doesn't trust Dibling with the defensive duties and is willing to opt with with Armstrong who is less effective on the wing but apparently offers something Moyes prefers, and McNeil till yesterday has been mediocre all season but made Moyes comfortable despite not even being reliable at tracking back all the time, so to me it appears to be a Moyes hang up. In the sparse opportunities he is provided, our typically disjointed attacking approach hasnt really given him an environment to thrive in, especially with Jake as RB
 
Some of you need to get your head around the fact that not every signing is made for immediate returns.

Could that money have been better utiilised, given the holes in our squad? Perhaps.

But we’ve all been moaning for years how we always miss out on the top young talent (something this lad is rated as throughout football).

Patience.
Teams that aren't the biggest buy young players and play them, like Brighton and Bournemouth. As a young player would you rather go to one of them or come to a club where they keep you waiting for your opportunity? Personally I'm not really fussed on how Dibling feels I'm just bothered that we spent £35 million on him and we need to recoup as much as possible to put towards players this summer that the manager will actually play.
 
Teams that aren't the biggest buy young players and play them, like Brighton and Bournemouth. As a young player would you rather go to one of them or come to a club where they keep you waiting for your opportunity? Personally I'm not really fussed on how Dibling feels I'm just bothered that we spent £35 million on him and we need to recoup as much as possible to put towards players this summer that the manager will actually play.
Look how many of the young players that Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford sign don’t go straight into the starting 11.

That Thiago only started playing regularly this season (I know he was injured a bit as well)

All young players need a bedding in period.
 
Look how many of the young players that Brighton, Bournemouth and Brentford sign don’t go straight into the starting 11.

That Thiago only started playing regularly this season (I know he was injured a bit as well)

All young players need a bedding in period.
Thiago was injured all last season. Bournemouth have been playing an 18 year old centre half. That's the way these days, unless you want to pay a fortune for players or buy very moderate players for £30 million a time which is what the likes of us and Tottenham are doing.
 
I've longed for the day we can spend £30+ mill on an attacking 19 year old with a high ceiling and have time and space to work on his development for the years ahead.

Im not so sure all of this isn't a good news story.
 
Thiago was injured all last season. Bournemouth have been playing an 18 year old centre half. That's the way these days, unless you want to pay a fortune for players or buy very moderate players for £30 million a time which is what the likes of us and Tottenham are doing.
Yeah, in the pressure cauldron that is the Vitality stadium.

I had this with Iggy the other day. Some want our club to be something it will never be.

And just because one 19 year old is ready, doesn’t mean another is.
 
There are two markets really that you have to be competitive in.

One is you have to be competitive for the best young talent in the country, just to get them in the door and look to develop them over a 3-5 year period.

Two you have to keep topping up the squad with experienced players that incrementally improve you - we generally recruit these from PL teams worse then us or players stepping down from top 6 clubs - the odd foreign player.

We've been skint for so so long, i think we haven't separated the two markets in modern football now and just have expectation that all our signings particularly big money ones should just automatically play the game has changed and recruitment in particular has changed.
 
There's two markets really that you have to be competitive in.

One is you have to be competitive for the best young talent in the country, just to get them in the door and look at them over a 3_5 year period.

Two you have to keep topping up the squad with experienced players that incrementally improve you - we generally recruit these from PL teams worse then us or players stepping down from top 6 clubs - the odd foreign player.

We've been skint for so so long, i think we haven't separated the two markets in modern football and just have expectation that all our signings particularly big money should just automatically play - recruitment in particular has changed.
While i don't necessarily disagree, until we see how much money TFG are going to spending in the coming window(s) I’m just not sure a £40m prospect is what we needed in the summer. It also feels like he sits between the two camps you’ve described, of course he’s young, but he also made 30(ish) appearances in the EPL last season.
I think they bought him expecting him to play more than he has, hopefully he is beginning to settle now and we’ll start to see a bit of him next season (can’t see it this season while Europe is still on the table), he certainly looks like he gets on with George, presumably from England camps, so fingers crossed.
 
There are two markets really that you have to be competitive in.

One is you have to be competitive for the best young talent in the country, just to get them in the door and look to develop them over a 3-5 year period.

Two you have to keep topping up the squad with experienced players that incrementally improve you - we generally recruit these from PL teams worse then us or players stepping down from top 6 clubs - the odd foreign player.

We've been skint for so so long, i think we haven't separated the two markets in modern football now and just have expectation that all our signings particularly big money ones should just automatically play the game has changed and recruitment in particular has changed.
We aren't at the stage where we can pay £35 million for a development project. Maybe £5 million, and even then if that player doesn't get game time inside a year they'll want to leave, it's the way the game is these days.
 
My take on this, is that it's a possibility that the club saw good potential in Dibling, realised that the usual suspects were not going to move for him and decided that this was our only real chance of getting him. They may well have bought him not intending to put him straight into the starting lineup, but, worried that had they waited a year and Dibling tore it up in the championship, our chance would have gone, as the big hitters would have then been in for him.

In my opinion we should not have signed him when we needed full backs desperately, but I'm a fan, not an owner. Dibling has been bought with a view to developing him and moving him on for a profit. We can expect to see more of this, the club is very definitely being ran as a business now.
 

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