2025/26 Tyler Dibling

[hetion]

This is what I don’t get about the doubts in this thread, he player most of last season and very well, he impressed last season any time I saw him.

There is loads of content you can go back and watch, if you didn’t catch him, at 19 he’s exceptional. I’d also highlight his strengths and physicality, quite rare at that age.

So good to watch isn't it.

Just makes me think again though that we desperately need a 6 who is a top-level passer from deep. We're building a squad with so many players who are incredible at receiving the ball on the half-turn and driving up the pitch - KDH, Dibling, Rohl, Ndiaye, Armstrong, even Alcaraz is really good at that...we really need someone who will consistently find those players and set them loose.

 

[COYBL25]

So good to watch isn't it.

Just makes me think again though that we desperately need a 6 who is a top-level passer from deep. We're building a squad with so many players who are incredible at receiving the ball on the half-turn and driving up the pitch - KDH, Dibling, Rohl, Ndiaye, Armstrong, even Alcaraz is really good at that...we really need someone who will consistently find those players and set them loose.

We also need someone up top, to link in with all these players and actually put the ball in the net !

 

[hetion]

We also need someone up top, to link in with all these players and actually put the ball in the net !

We've got one imo who will come into his own just as the rest of the team hopefully comes together.

 

[Neiler]

We also need someone up top, to link in with all these players and actually put the ball in the net !

I know people talk about buying striker, but actually our strikers not scoring goals is a huge problem and will ultimately undermine us this season unless there is an improvement or a change, 1 in the league as it stands - that is awful and undermining.

Relying on others just isn't sustainable.

 

[Swartzy]

I know people talk about buying striker, but actually our strikers not scoring goals is a huge problem and will ultimately undermine us this season unless there is an improvement or a change, 1 in the league as it stands - that is awful and undermining.

Relying on others just isn't sustainable.

Especially when our top scorer is heading to afcon.

More and more pressure on Barry.

 

[Billy Dean]

For Tyler i think its a tough gig, no one is really dropping Illy or Grealish lets be honest, its a high bar especially when you are 19. Do you bring him on with 20 mins to go on Monday, when you are under the kosh and a decision turns 3 points into 1 or 0 - dont think so. If you look at the other games, since he got 45 mins Vs Palace, Spurs - no, City away - no, Sunderland away - no, only one id query was Fulham home - he really should have gotten 15-20 mins there - if my memory is right though Moyes wasn't happy with him at the time in training.

Totally agree. Especially this part. It's early on in the season and we're coming off the back of a few straight years of relegation battles. Tyler's time to see minutes will probably come later in the season when our league status is more secure (if that time comes). Either that or due to injuries and suspensions.

 

[Zatara]

We also need someone up top, to link in with all these players and actually put the ball in the net !

I think Barry has shown signs recently that he can link play. He's apparently taken time at his previous clubs to adapt and this is a new level for him.

I'd previously said at the end of the window that the new signings will probably not click until Dec/Jan onwards.

The goals are an issue of course. We actually need goals from Barry, left wing and midfield.

We've got one imo who will come into his own just as the rest of the team hopefully comes together.

I agree.

I know people talk about buying striker, but actually our strikers not scoring goals is a huge problem and will ultimately undermine us this season unless there is an improvement or a change, 1 in the league as it stands - that is awful and undermining.

Relying on others just isn't sustainable.

It depends on a few things as weve seen from that Marcus Bent season. Also, years prior to that, the likes of Speed and Kanchelskis were top scorers for us.

We currently only have Ndiaye that looks like scoring.

This is quite interesting as it seems like hes saying that "at his age he needs games" - he's a similar age to Dibling (and Aznou).

 

[Bedfordblue]

This is quite interesting as it seems like hes saying that "at his age he needs games" - he's a similar age to Dibling (and Aznou).

In Moyes we trust

 

[Zatara]

When you group them together like that mate, you can see actually the individual adjustment process. Its either age, experience or experience of this league in terms of adjustment and developmental needs

I think its a fair assessment to judge Moyes s much on the development and adjustment of these players as it is to question the players themselves.

Its a different Everton era then the one he lvied through, were he was master of all he surveyed. I think there will process with this management and ownership group looking at the recruitment and development of these players as investments come the end of the season and what progress has been made on that investment.

Personally i trust Moyes a lot, i remember the adjustment process of a lot of his former Everton players but also the likes of Bowen at WHU.


For Tyler i think its a tough gig, no one is really dropping Illy or Grealish lets be honest, its a high bar especially when you are 19. Do you bring him on with 20 mins to go on Monday, when you are under the kosh and a decision turns 3 points into 1 or 0 - dont think so. If you look at the other games, since he got 45 mins Vs Palace, Spurs - no, City away - no, Sunderland away - no, only one id query was Fulham home - he really should have gotten 15-20 mins there - if my memory is right though Moyes wasn't happy with him at the time in training.

Moyes was reticent to use young players before and only really did so after having them around the squad for a significant period of time.

Thesedays I wonder if young players will accept that when theyre seeing other teams playing kids of 15 years and above?

If were rebuilding a squad and we cant sign the current stars we need to bring in the potential stars like Dibling. Other u21s like him will be seeing Dibling and Aznou on the sidelines...what will they be thinking?

In addition, Armstrong will be an interesting one for our own development players in u21s and below. When he comes back from Preston in the summer will Moyes gradually integrate him into the 11 or will he be given the Dibling/Aznou treatment?

Our u21s and those we may be interested to sign, i'm sure will be watching with interest.

 

[Efcjake]

The one i never understand mate is the presumption things are going wrong because players haven't been in the team or fans don't see them play, you could say the same thing about Rohl, Aznou and Barry at different points to an extent this season also, each ive seen written off at different stages. Just because fans dont get the run rule over them and make a judgement just yet, doesn't mean these players arent going to be absolute gems.

Perception is also important - on one hand people say a waste of £40 mill and should be in the team at times, on the other hand hes two months older then Harrison Armstrong, who would be far from guaranteed first team mins here and and has been loaned out out to Preston for experience - the tolerances are very different. Both are the same age with similar experience. Yet viewed very differently.

When you actually look at a core at 19 on our books we have - Armstrong, Dibling and Aznou.

I dont see the panic.

Mate if any team was spending what we did on Dibling for Armstrong you would imagine they'd be expecting to see him play as well.

The age doesn't come into it if you're deciding it's wise to spend the largest portion of our transfer budget on him then you would expect he's going to come in and be able to contribute from day 1.

If he isn't able to because he's only 19 then you have to question if it was the wisest way to spend this money at this point in time.

I'm certain he will be good when he's actually given an opportunity to feature, it's incredibly frustrating after years of not being able to spend that the player we spent the most money on we are being told isn't able to start a game or even come off the bench for 10 minutes.

 

[Efcjake]

I know people talk about buying striker, but actually our strikers not scoring goals is a huge problem and will ultimately undermine us this season unless there is an improvement or a change, 1 in the league as it stands - that is awful and undermining.

Relying on others just isn't sustainable.

This is exactly why people are questioning whether it was sensible to spend 70 million on Barry and Dibling when that same money probably could have got us a better striker and we'd likely be better off as neither Barry or Dibling have contributed any goals so far.

 

[Bebeto]

Can he play cm?

 

[Neiler]

Mate if any team was spending what we did on Dibling for Armstrong you would imagine they'd be expecting to see him play as well.

The age doesn't come into it if you're deciding it's wise to spend the largest portion of our transfer budget on him then you would expect he's going to come in and be able to contribute from day 1.

If he isn't able to because he's only 19 then you have to question if it was the wisest way to spend this money at this point in time.

I'm certain he will be good when he's actually given an opportunity to feature, it's incredibly frustrating after years of not being able to spend that the player we spent the most money on we are being told isn't able to start a game or even come off the bench for 10 minutes.

That fee isn’t significant these days mate and if we have aspirations of being a big club then we buy potential and develop it, I don’t think it’s that unusual, Chelsea have a squad of p,Ayers with a similar profile, Spurs are doing something similar with Archie Gray, Odobert and Bergval. Newcastle used Gordon sparingly when he first went there for half a season.

To be frank, what we are doing g is not even par with other clubs, we’ve just been starved for so long we’re not used to it!

 

[Efcjake]

That fee isn’t significant these days mate and if we have aspirations of being a big club then we buy potential and develop it, I don’t think it’s that unusual, Chelsea have a squad of p,Ayers with a similar profile, Spurs are doing something similar with Archie Gray, Odobert and Bergval. Newcastle used Gordon sparingly when he first went there for half a season.

To be frank, what we are doing g is not even par with other clubs, we’ve just been starved for so long we’re not used to it!

It's significant to us when it represents over a third of the entire budget though isn't it?

Our aspirations are to be better than last year and you'd have a hard time explaining right now how the Dibling signing has had any impact towards that goal.

We aren't Chelsea, Spurs or Newcastle are we? We're a team that's been battling relegation aspiring to midtable stability not one building a squad for Europe with promising youngsters.

The issue isn't that he isn't a good development prospect, the issue is that we could have used that money on a finished article player who would actually have made an impact by December.

 

[Zatara]

Mate if any team was spending what we did on Dibling for Armstrong you would imagine they'd be expecting to see him play as well.

The age doesn't come into it if you're deciding it's wise to spend the largest portion of our transfer budget on him then you would expect he's going to come in and be able to contribute from day 1.

If he isn't able to because he's only 19 then you have to question if it was the wisest way to spend this money at this point in time.

I'm certain he will be good when he's actually given an opportunity to feature, it's incredibly frustrating after years of not being able to spend that the player we spent the most money on we are being told isn't able to start a game or even come off the bench for 10 minutes.

Moyes not playing him at all is beyond weird, but he has form for it and is doing the same with Aznou.

I dont know if youre frustrated with:
A: Investing into young players
B: Moyes not playing young players
C: Not spending more on immediate impact players

That fee isn’t significant these days mate and if we have aspirations of being a big club then we buy potential and develop it, I don’t think it’s that unusual, Chelsea have a squad of p,Ayers with a similar profile, Spurs are doing something similar with Archie Gray, Odobert and Bergval. Newcastle used Gordon sparingly when he first went there for half a season.

To be frank, what we are doing g is not even par with other clubs, we’ve just been starved for so long we’re not used to it!

For comparison, Archie Gray has 72mins in the league this season for Spurs, Odobert 445mins and Bergvall 414mins.

If we were to drop e.g £40mil on Archie Gray in January then he normally walks into our team at right back. However, I'd expect Moyes to prefer O'Brien there due to 'experience'.

If and when players like Dibling, Gray or others become available we need to sign them. Not for today, but for tomorrow.

Fees of £35-40mill for young English talent will only increase.

Of course, this needs to be balanced with signings for today.