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I was really confused when Erdogan referenced orders coming from Pennsylvania in one of his speeches, not knowing at the time who Gulen was or that he was holing himself up in some tiny town 90 miles outside of Philly.

Our state department has basically said "if you can prove it you can have him" and uh, yeah, then Erdogan and the Turkish PM started saying the things we're seeing now.

This should be good.
Or very bad, very quickly tbh.
 
Or very bad, very quickly tbh.

It's easy to laugh when you're 10,000 miles away, surrounded by water, and have the world's most expensive military in history defending you, but yeah you're right.

The more I read about what's been happening in Turkey over the past decade the more I, um, "appreciate" the conspiracy theory about this being a false flag operation so Erdogan can further consolidate his power.
 
It's easy to laugh when you're 10,000 miles away, surrounded by water, and have the world's most expensive military in history defending you, but yeah you're right.

The more I read about what's been happening in Turkey over the past decade the more I, um, "appreciate" the conspiracy theory about this being a false flag operation so Erdogan can further consolidate his power.
Easy for you, I'm moving back to Bulgaria in a few months :)

But I hope it's all a 'ploy', as I know who they'll attack first if ANYTHING happens, as history tends to repeat itself. Our people are already in DEFCON 4 because of that, and politicians are saying we need to take actions and strenghten borders etc.

I also live not far from the Turkish border.

What a time to be alive eh?
 
It's easy to laugh when you're 10,000 miles away, surrounded by water, and have the world's most expensive military in history defending you, but yeah you're right.

The more I read about what's been happening in Turkey over the past decade the more I, um, "appreciate" the conspiracy theory about this being a false flag operation so Erdogan can further consolidate his power.
Perhaps when it was in the initial stages when it was all just posturing and troops moving around but to actually bomb parliment when his ministers were in session seems a touch extreme but then I've never been a huge believer in conspiracy theories.
 
Perhaps when it was in the initial stages when it was all just posturing and troops moving around but to actually bomb parliment when his ministers were in session seems a touch extreme but then I've never been a huge believer in conspiracy theories.
TBF burning down the Reichstag building was pretty extreme too. Erdogan has been pushing for arresting and prosecuting journalists and other critics of his regime. If it wasn't a false flag, and it is entirely possible that it wasn't, then it has come at a very useful time for his government. It seems like he will use the coup to push through some constitutional reforms which he wasn't able to prior, including reintroducing the death penalty.
 
Easy for you, I'm moving back to Bulgaria in a few months :)

But I hope it's all a 'ploy', as I know who they'll attack first if ANYTHING happens, as history tends to repeat itself. Our people are already in DEFCON 4 because of that, and politicians are saying we need to take actions and strenghten borders etc.

I also live not far from the Turkish border.

What a time to be alive eh?

I feel for ya mate. The only solace I can offer is that I would sincerely hope that in NATO on NATO war we'd stand against the aggressor.

But who knows, if [Poor language removed] hits the fan and Trump does get elected... Yikes
 
Easy for you, I'm moving back to Bulgaria in a few months :)

But I hope it's all a 'ploy', as I know who they'll attack first if ANYTHING happens, as history tends to repeat itself. Our people are already in DEFCON 4 because of that, and politicians are saying we need to take actions and strenghten borders etc.

I also live not far from the Turkish border.

What a time to be alive eh?

Stay safe mate. Everton needs you..!
 
I feel for ya mate. The only solace I can offer is that I would sincerely hope that in NATO on NATO war we'd stand against the aggressor.

But who knows, if [Poor language removed] hits the fan and Trump does get elected... Yikes
Well, America already has a LOT of army bases (several near my hometown/the border, how odd is that eh? Pretty cool to drive around and see humvee's with the American flag I guess), so if he gets elected then [Poor language removed] WILL hit the fan, in all aspects, everywhere.

Stay safe mate. Everton needs you..!
Fairly sure we can be crap without a random lad from Bulgaria tbh lol
Clownman out ffs!!!1
 
TBF burning down the Reichstag building was pretty extreme too. Erdogan has been pushing for arresting and prosecuting journalists and other critics of his regime. If it wasn't a false flag, and it is entirely possible that it wasn't, then it has come at a very useful time for his government. It seems like he will use the coup to push through some constitutional reforms which he wasn't able to prior, including reintroducing the death penalty.

Bingo!
 
Turkey is supposed to be one of the key members of NATO and their military can't even take over the country when its leader is out on vacation.

What's the point of this alliance again?

Borders with Syria, Iraq, Iran, Greece, Georgia the Meditrerrinean and the Black Sea. Russia and China will gladly spend all the monies to put a military base or 2 there.
 
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