Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Not to the same extent as Utd RS Arse snd Chelsea. I agree they have more press coverage being based in London, but the media are still trying to sell their best players to teams below them in the league.
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The top group are determined by wherever Man Utd are. They are sixth so its top six and you just know if they were 7th it would be top 7. To the media the league revolves around Man Utd.
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
Well, when you consider that the rs won everything for virtually a generation (and have won the CL and a Uefa cup since), Utd the same. Arsenal have been winning major trophies every decade for as long as I can remember and Chelsea are the most successful English side of the last decade.
Then you consider that the last time Spurs were champions of England, John Fitzgerald Kennedy was the most powerful man on the planet. It's kind of ridiculous the attention they get and particularly were getting when finishing lower than we are now.
As you say part of it is them being based in London but doesn't tell the whole story.
It'll become the top 7 when we're constantly pushing for the CL and the RS are the best of the rest
davek
Player Valuation: £150m
Spot on mate.We are a "beacon" to the teams below us?
Have you forgotten how Leicester won the title last season?
And his both Saints and Hammers finished above both Chelsea and the RS
"Top six" is this season's buzz phrase.....to be consigned to history when a Leicester or a Southampton gets such a lofty position again.
And the reason it has taken root is because the current teams in the top six have been there for about six months now......ever since we fell out of the "top six" during our dismal autumn.
"Top 6" is for the birds. A phoney extended elite when everyone knows that only top four matters.
It reminds of that Groucho Marx comment (repeated by Woody Allen) "I dont want to be a part of any club that would have someone like me as a member".
Hong Kong Phooey
Player Valuation: £8m
http://tottenhamhotspur.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/everton-bigger-than-spurs-stop-laughter.html?m=1
Possibly not the correct thread? But crikey get a load of that..
Possibly not the correct thread? But crikey get a load of that..
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Apart from this "top 6" concept, which has only come to the fore this season (and I believe is simply down to Spurs, over the last few years, finishing consistently above established media darling such as RS and Utd) I've not really noticed any OTT media attention for them mate. Similar to the barcodes, I agree they've attracted more attention than us over the last 20 years or so, but as I said, I just put that down to them being London based. Do you think there's more to it than that? If so, please tell.
I'm not disputing what you say mate. I've just not noticed it myself so it's never really bothered me that much. I get more worked up over the coverage Newcastle get, as they've literally done nothing to warrant it whatsoever.
messymascot
Player Valuation: £35m
Think we may have touched a nerve there!!
ianefc
Player Valuation: £70m
It's as simple as 9>2
Neiziro
Player Valuation: £25m
Wahhhhhh!!!!!!!!
Barnfred 55
Player Valuation: £80m
Should have read this before I responded to your first post mate.No, I don't think so.....though I could be wrong
An attempt is being made in the media over here to make "Top six" a generic term for six teams they deem to be a cocooned elite in the EPL and too many of our friends on here are buying into it.
And I am raging against it
IMO it us being driven mainly by the fact Manchester United are struggling to make the Top Four on a regular basis these days, a genuine elite grouping as finishing top four allows a club to dine at the highest table and whatever else, the media have to preserve the elite status of the United "brand" and keep it relevant.
The same applies to the RS to a certain extent.
And it will get worse if, as I suspect, Arsenal lose their top four status and spend a few years in the relative doldrums fighting for the 5th Place Best Of The Rest Trophy
As we all know, United, the RS and Arsenal are media darlings and have been for yonkos.....if those three are regularly finishing outside the real elite group then a new term has to be invented to keep them aloft.
Hence we are entering the era of the "Top Six"
As I said, and I think you agree, finish above one or more of the established darlings for 2/3 years and we'll turn it into a top 7.
It's a media thing and, like it or not ,it ain't going away. But it's better to be in the club than not. It means we're performing on the pitch plus, rightly or wrongly, it will attract more investment from advertising and more "plastics" to boost our gates in our 60k new stadium and spend lots of dosh on merchandising.
and we're called bitter.
They were not much before Bill Nicholson and not much after. As stated, a good cup team
If they weren't in London, who would they be?
Yo-yo Barcodes with a funny quaint name - like Accrington Stanley
who?
Exactly.
That boy is very insecure, doesn't he
If I was talking to him I would be tempted to say "show us your league title trophies".
Or ask him if Everton have ever been relegated in his lifetime.
Players use Everton as "stepping stones"?
Does he wonder if Michael Carrick, Gareth Bale, Berbatov or Teddy Sheringham regarded Spurs as owt more than "stepping stones" in their careers?
Not to mention Sol Campbell
He takes the Echo to task for suggesting that the ground the council gave City was not the catalyst for their regeneration, that it was the Arab money......he hasn't the wit to realise it is chicken and egg.....without the ground the Arabs would not have been interested (the theory is EFC was also looked at but the situation re the ground swayed them) and without the money the Etihad would only be half full every week, occasionally in the Championship.
Which is the biggest club?
Who knows?
But I tell you what I do know. Everton fans have more the mindset of big club supporters than Spurs fans.
Anyone whom was at Elland Road in April 1995 knows that for sure
TraffordBlue
Player Valuation: £30m
He's very defensive about the debate isn't he. You wouldn't see an article like that on a Man United or Arsenal forum as they would laugh it off because they're genuinely much bigger clubs than us.
I personally think the Echo article is pointless and if we're talking about the here and now, which is what matters, Tottenham are the bigger club. They've been battling it out for a top 4 place for the past 10 years, achieving that 3 times and have competed in the Champions League on occasions. They are having yet another great season, and are building what could be one of the best stadiums in Europe. They are the club that we should be aspiring to be, if basing things on the past 10 years.
However, when it comes to an overall debate, we are comfortably the bigger club (not that it matters at this moment as Villa are bigger than Bournemouth, and it hasn't got them very far).
The best comment on his article is "Everton have followed in footsteps first imprinted by Spurs" which is probably one of the most ignorant and wrong comments ever made on any football article I have ever read lol. The facts are that they have a lot of second rate cup wins, but when it comes to the absolute major trophies being the European Cup and League Title, they are so far down the list it is embarrassing. They also haven't won any titles in the last 50 years.
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