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[dead_soft]

Don't think Tommy Robinson or Farage have committed any murders..

Both sides equally as bad

You have sown absolutely nothing that backs that up

 

[Redstarrob]

I can’t tell if you’re being serious or just trolling now, your reading comprehensions skills are farcical at this point.



Thank you for giving an example, how frequently do these happen ? Would you say far left terrorist attacks are anywhere near as frequent as right wing attacks ? Why are the police and government agencies saying far right terrorism is a growing risk yet they say nothing about far left terrorism ? Could it be because one is considerably more prevailent at the moment than the other ?

Anyone who commmits murder because of their ideology is a wrongun but fact is that far right ideologies have a much bigger track record of this happening in recent history.

People have died in republican attacks, and what do you class as recent, if you take it from the 70's which is condidered modern history the far left terrorism eclipses the right by a huge margin, but terror is terror no matter where it comes from

 

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if you take it from the 70's which is condidered modern history the far left terrorism eclipses the right by a huge margin, but terror is terror no matter where it comes from

Stats to back this up ? Not saying you're wrong but i'd definitely be interested to see them, are you talking worldwide or domestic (UK & Ireland) ? Your post also suggests that you have to go back to the 70's in order to make your point (or maybe im wrong ?)... that's 50 years ago, i don't class that as recent.

In todays world far right terrorism is considerably more prevalent than far left terrorism, that's a fair statement no ?

 

[Frang]

Stats to back this up ? Not saying you're wrong but i'd definitely be interested to see them, are you talking worldwide or domestic (UK & Ireland) ? Your post also suggests that you have to go back to the 70's in order to make your point (or maybe im wrong ?)... that's 50 years ago, i don't class that as recent.

In todays world far right terrorism is considerably more prevalent than far left terrorism, that's a fair statement no ?

Why are you trying to pigeon hole terrorists, right or left anyway..

Terrorism is terrorism is it not.

I find it unhealthy that people try and label atrocities to a cause, every single time.

Isis love to claim atrocities made by individuals, when in fact they had nothing to do with it. What pigeon hole do those go in??

 

[ToffeeTim]

Stats to back this up ? Not saying you're wrong but i'd definitely be interested to see them, are you talking worldwide or domestic (UK & Ireland) ? Your post also suggests that you have to go back to the 70's in order to make your point (or maybe im wrong ?)... that's 50 years ago, i don't class that as recent.

In todays world far right terrorism is considerably more prevalent than far left terrorism, that's a fair statement no ?

Terrorism is terrorism. The far left and the far right are almost the same. There isn't much difference. The two extremes almost meet in the political spectrum.

 

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Why are you trying to pigeon hole terrorists, right or left anyway..

Terrorism is terrorism is it not.

I find it unhealthy that people try and label atrocities to a cause, every single time.

Isis love to claim atrocities made by individuals, when in fact they had nothing to do with it. What pigeon hole do those go in??

So we should just ignore the ideologies behind terrorist attacks because that's pigeon holing people ? If they leave behind a specific manifesto detailing why they committed a crime we should ignore this and not focus on their ideology influencing them to commit a crime ? Why ? Because terrorists are terrorists ?

The attacks are categorised by the police/government as 'far right terrorism' because there is evidence of them being motivated by that ideology, you make it sound like its a bunch of random bums lazily attributing a 'far right' tag to something based on no evidence.

Im getting tired of writing 'ideology' fyi

Terrorism is terrorism. The far left and the far right are almost the same. There isn't much difference. The two extremes meet almost in the meet again in the political spectrum.

The difference is that one is currently committing terrorist attacks at a far higher rate than the other. If there is no difference why are governments worrying about the rise of far right terrorism far more than far left terrorism ?

No one is saying far left terrorism isn't as bad as far right terrorism, terrorism is terrorism but one side is currently committing more attacks than the other and by a sizeable margin, that's a fact.

 

[Frang]

So we should just ignore the ideologies behind terrorist attacks because that's pigeon holing people ? If they leave behind a specific manifesto detailing why they committed a crime we should ignore this and not focus on their ideology influencing them to commit a crime ? Why ? Because terrorists are terrorists ?

The attacks are categorised by the police/government as 'far right terrorism' because there is evidence of them being motivated by that ideology, you make it sound like its a bunch of random bums lazily attributing a 'far right' tag to something based on no evidence.

Im getting tired of writing 'ideology' fyi



The difference is that one is currently committing terrorist attacks at a far higher rate than the other. If there is no difference why are governments worrying about the rise of far right terrorism far more than far left terrorism ?

No one is saying far left terrorism isn't as bad as far right terrorism, terrorism is terrorism but one side is currently committing more attacks than the other and by a sizeable margin, that's a fact.

What can we say / do, to make you feel better..??

Or are you just blowing steam off?

 

[Redstarrob]

Stats to back this up ? Not saying you're wrong but i'd definitely be interested to see them, are you talking worldwide or domestic (UK & Ireland) ? Your post also suggests that you have to go back to the 70's in order to make your point (or maybe im wrong ?)... that's 50 years ago, i don't class that as recent.

In todays world far right terrorism is considerably more prevalent than far left terrorism, that's a fair statement no ?

Baader meinhoff, ira, inla, iplo, khmer rouge to name a few, what far right terrorist organisations do you refer to, from what i can see its mostly lone wolf nutters, but unfortunately murderous nutters

 

[Walken]

I never understand how people think modern day far left is as bad as modern day far right, the worst the far left get up to is a few Antifa melts getting into a fight at a protest meanwhile people with far right beliefs have committed mass murder numerous times over the past few years.

I've always felt it's a way of not condoning right wing extremism but refusing to condemn it

 

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Baader meinhoff, ira, inla, iplo, khmer rouge to name a few, what far right terrorist organisations do you refer to, from what i can see its mostly lone wolf nutters, but unfortunately murderous nutters

Thanks for the list although it would have been nice to see stats and figures relative to right wing terrorism at the time but i don't blame you for not being arsed to find them.

My point has always been that far right terrorism is considerably more of a worry today than far left terrorism, naming a bunch of defunct groups who were primarily active in the 70's doesn't disprove this. I guess it comes down to how you interpret my original statement 'modern day far left', to me that means here and now or in the past decade but i guess others could interpret it as going back as far as the 70's. Either way, our police forces etc are far more concerned with far right terrorism than they are far left terrorism, simply because its currently more prevalent.

 

[Frang]

Thanks for the list although it would have been nice to see stats and figures relative to right wing terrorism at the time but i don't blame you for not being arsed to find them.

My point has always been that far right terrorism is considerably more of a worry today than far left terrorism, naming a bunch of defunct groups who were primarily active in the 70's doesn't disprove this. I guess it comes down to how you interpret my original statement 'modern day far left', to me that means here and now or in the past decade but i guess others could interpret it as going back as far as the 70's. Either way, our police forces etc are far more concerned with far right terrorism than they are far left terrorism, simply because its currently more prevalent.

To be honest I really hope the police are just interested in 'terrorists'

You aren't actually making a point. Merely trolling one thinks.

Nice try

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Thanks for the list although it would have been nice to see stats and figures relative to right wing terrorism at the time but i don't blame you for not being arsed to find them.

My point has always been that far right terrorism is considerably more of a worry today than far left terrorism, naming a bunch of defunct groups who were primarily active in the 70's doesn't disprove this. I guess it comes down to how you interpret my original statement 'modern day far left', to me that means here and now or in the past decade but i guess others could interpret it as going back as far as the 70's. Either way, our police forces etc are far more concerned with far right terrorism than they are far left terrorism, simply because its currently more prevalent.

Far left and far right are incomparable and anyone espousing that they are as bad as each other demonstrate a complete lack of understanding of what true left wing politics actually entails. Currently, in the uk, there is no one in mainstream discourse advocating far left policies in my opinion.

 

[Redstarrob]

Thanks for the list although it would have been nice to see stats and figures relative to right wing terrorism at the time but i don't blame you for not being arsed to find them.

My point has always been that far right terrorism is considerably more of a worry today than far left terrorism, naming a bunch of defunct groups who were primarily active in the 70's doesn't disprove this. I guess it comes down to how you interpret my original statement 'modern day far left', to me that means here and now or in the past decade but i guess others could interpret it as going back as far as the 70's. Either way, our police forces etc are far more concerned with far right terrorism than they are far left terrorism, simply because its currently more prevalent.

Well, what right wing terror organisations were active from the same period until now,

 

[Frang]

Well, what right wing terror organisations were active from the same period until now,

He's just googling now.

Probably hamas, Al quieda and Donald trump.

 

[PhilM]

My point has always been that far right terrorism is considerably more of a worry today than far left terrorism, naming a bunch of defunct groups who were primarily active in the 70's doesn't disprove this.

With regards to terrorism, the greatest perceived threats to this country are currently from Islamic terrorist and dissident Irish Nationalists - fact.