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Tubey said:
It's bizarre - you're describing the reasons why it wasn't simulation, then saying it was at the end with your final sentence!

It is what it is - Vardy has came together with the defender, they've clashed, no foul, no dive, play goes on.
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He has tried to cheat to win a penalty. No one wants this in the game as other refs would have given the pen. So he was rightly booked and then sent off for it.
 
Mozza1987 said:
It's not the same as you said there was slight contact from the defender and he goes down easily. Did the defender make slight contact on Vardy from him making a tackle to win the ball or did Vardy throw his legs there making the contact happen?
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Looked to me like the West Ham player had his hand on Vardy's shoulder pulling him back, Vardy tried the lean in and step in front to get in front of the player, but he couldn't get in enough, by which point he had committed and knew there would be leg tangle.

He should have kept battling or put on the brakes. His big error was actually diving at the end. The defender would have clattered him no doubt, had he stayed on his feet.
 
Mozza1987 said:
He has tried to cheat to win a penalty. No one wants this in the game as other refs would have given the pen. So he was rightly booked and then sent off for it.
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Please look up the definition of simulation in the game mate.

It's classed as a fall and no action should be taken. Vardy is allowed to put his legs anywhere he likes - if he trips the West Ham player, it's a standard foul to West Ham. If they just clash, it's just a coming together and play is waved on.
 
Tubey said:
Please look up the definition of simulation in the game mate.

It's classed as a fall and no action should be taken. Vardy is allowed to put his legs anywhere he likes - if he trips the West Ham player, it's a standard foul to West Ham. If they just clash, it's just a coming together and play is waved on.
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I don't really care what it says to be honest. He is rightly booked and sent off for trying to con the ref that the defender fouled him. No one wants that in the game and shocked people think he should be allowed to get away with it.
 
heatmeiser said:
Saying the Vardy yellow was simulation is akin to someone walking out in front of a bus and people saying that they haven't been run over.

They were definitely run over, but it wasn't the bus driver's fault.

Not sure where I'm going with this actually. SOCCER
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Because he is trying to cheat to gain the pen mate. Every player may as well run away from the ball and into the defender when in the box from now on then as you won't get booked for it and you might con your way to a pen.
 
Tubey said:
No, because that isn't the rule. Sorry but it just isn't. A player can try and engineer a situation where connection is made; that is not simulation by any definition of the rule.

You're mistaking the term "deceiving the referee" with "simulation". They're not the same. You can be naturally fouled or you can try and put yourself in a position to be fouled - neither of which are illegal.

If a striker runs past a defender who leaves a leg, then the striker can go over that leg with his trailing foot and get a penalty. Yes, he could have avoided that contact, but by deliberately going over it it doesn't mean the striker has "simulated" the foul.
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Look, here is a powerpoint from FIFA regarding Law 12. Page 49 clearly states:

Circumstances when a player is cautioned
for unsporting behaviour e.g.

To deal with simulation the referee should know the
difference between:
a tackle (challenging for the ball and touching it)
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no action
a foul made by the defender
•
free kick or penalty kick and disciplinary sanction if
needed
a Simulation (attempts to deceive the referee by
feigning injury or pretending to have been fouled)
•
yellow card
a fall (no attempt to deceive the referee)
•
no action
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He didn't go in for a tackle, he didn't fall, and it wasn't a foul made by the defender. It was an action designed to "buy" a penalty, to deceive the referee. It was a correctly awarded yellow card.
 
Mozza1987 said:
It's not the same as you said there was slight contact from the defender and he goes down easily. Did the defender make slight contact on Vardy from him making a tackle to win the ball or did Vardy throw his legs there making the contact happen?
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It is the same as its a player trying to "win" foul based on a situation.

Anytime there a soft foul or someone saying "he's waited for the challenge" does that mean they've dived or simulated? No, theyve tried to win something. Ref decides if it's a foul.

Remember the RS holy trinity of penalty winners? Sturridge, Sterling, Suarez? They did that all the time. Hardly ever booked.
 
heatmeiser said:
Saying the Vardy yellow was simulation is akin to someone walking out in front of a bus and people saying that they haven't been run over.

They were definitely run over, but it wasn't the bus driver's fault.

Not sure where I'm going with this actually. SOCCER
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Was the bus driver drunk?

What speed was he going?
 
I read all the comments first and then found the footage on youtube to watch, so FWIW, no penalty, Vardy deliberately plants his leg in front of the defender in order to bring contact and go down, so a yellow card was the correct decision as he was trying to induce the ref to give a penalty even though there was no foul. It wasn't a simple innocent tangle of legs as Vardy clearly moves his leg over to bring the contact.
 
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