Today’s Football 2021/22 Season

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I imagine our wage bill is way higher than many who have won trophies since we last did.

The teams that are consistently challenging for trophies spend higher wages, yes, but - again - they can do that because the income associated with that relative level of success allows it.

If you’re spending big on wages and being crap on the pitch consistently, it’s an irresponsible waste of money and shouldn’t be justified by pointing out that far, far more successful teams are spending more
I wasn't advocating having a high bill whilst being crap, nor was I justifying it on the basis that other teams have higher bills.

Our wage bill was round about right for the level we were at under Moyes, but it's been too high for quite a while. Hopefully it will come down as some high earning players come to the end of contracts.
 
My point wasn't that we're doing well it's that if our goal is to actually compete at that level we are going to have to figure out a way to spend like that or we're going to have to find a way to put together as talented a team for less.

Neither is likely but it is why I bang on about trying to buy young as young players cost less and really good ones usually get overlooked. You aren't finding many 26 year olds who are elite players, who aren't at CL clubs already and who will fit inside the confines of what we pay.
Agree on the young player point.

Porto, Atlético and even for a few years Southampton had great models in place of improving performance by buying young, selling for a profit and reinvesting wisely. It takes an excellent recruitment team and patient managers and fans but it really is the only way we can conceivably climb the ladder in anything resembling a sustainable fashion.
 
I wasn't advocating having a high bill whilst being crap, nor was I justifying it on the basis that other teams have higher bills.

Our wage bill was round about right for the level we were at under Moyes, but it's been too high for quite a while. Hopefully it will come down as some high earning players come to the end of contracts.
It will undoubtedly come down when a few leave, the burning question is if we’ve learned our lesson!

I’m both excited and terrified to see what we do next in the transfer market, whichever division we’re in.
 
Agree on the young player point.

Porto, Atlético and even for a few years Southampton had great models in place of improving performance by buying young, selling for a profit and reinvesting wisely. It takes an excellent recruitment team and patient managers and fans but it really is the only way we can conceivably climb the ladder in anything resembling a sustainable fashion.
We're a good three seasons away from even being at the level West Ham, Wolves and Leicester have been at. If we want to go beyond that it is going to be a long process. I'm talking a decade. We have to rebuild the whole club top to bottom. We can't outspend anyone so it has to be done different.
 
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