Tim Howard

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Birth place does come into though. Only Yanks really that think he's any good. Either because they see it as a patriotic thing or they haven't got a jar of glue..

Doesn't come into it at all, so your saying only people born in Liverpool rate Barkley? Actually you are right, is does come into it because its something to fall back on when the scapegoating is getting nowhere.
 
Wouldn't even bother lads. I had this conversation with them yesterday and they won't even attach any blame to Howard at all. It's laughable to be honest. Everyone else see's that Barkley does take some blame for the goal but they won't take the tinted glasses off when it comes to Howard.
 
Doesn't come into it at all, so your saying only people born in Liverpool rate Barkley? Actually you are right, is does come into it because its something to fall back on when the scapegoating is getting nowhere.

Get yourself over to the Jozy Altidore thread friend. Then you can come back and tell me I'm right...

Baiting Yanks about how crap their players are, even when they were truly awful, always got more bites than a birthday cake at a weight watchers meeting..
 
Though I now live in the States, I don't have much interest in their national team. (ireland fan). I think a lot of Americans on here, and the ones I watch the games with, realize that Howard is prone to mistakes and is not one of the best in the world but he comes in for unfair criticism on here and I have to agree with them.
The whole notion that theres always one scapegoat no matter how well everyone is playing is somewhat alien. If we were winning the league with Osman in the side, he'd still get crap. Unfortunately for Howard, there's no Neville or Osman to take the abuse, it's up to him now. So forget about the years of loyalty, MoTM performances and penalty saves and lets give him dogs abuse for not commanding his 6 yard box like Peter Schmeikel.
 
Why not go deeper and ask if those sticking up for him are also devout Christians ? Be just as valid!!

Seriously, those sticking up for him are Evertonians first and formost, place of birth wont be coming into it.


FFS over reaction of the year. Dude it was a joke, sarcasm and all of that jeez. Sure i live in the US haha and have American family!!

But you know it is not uncommon for people to generally stand up for their countrymen i know i am like that when it comes to my Irish brethren so calm down dude
 
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