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The manager infuriates me with this quote:

“I’m delighted with the form of Joel, and delighted to have the experience of Tim Howard when most needed, especially when you have the young players or inexperienced players of the goalkeeper and back four.

“It’s important you have that experience from Tim.”

So it's important to play Howard because....."experience". Except he played Joel in the League Cup with an inexperienced back four. And, he played Howard last year despite an obvious drop in form AND with our first choice defence. He's talking nonsense. How can a man say and do all the right things during the John Stones saga and yet get it so wrong when it comes to taking players out the side. It's stubbornness and it will end up hurting the team in the process because it send a message that form does not matter.
 
Why Everton Must Seek Tim Howard’s Replacement ASAP
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Familiarity, we are told, breeds contempt. The two have certainly gone hand-in-hand throughout Roberto Martinez’s Everton tenure. Yet scorn is the least of his worries where the by-product of his persistence with Tim Howard is concerned.
The Spaniard has often extolled the merits of the much-maligned—Arouna Kone and Antolin Alcaraz are just two that instantly spring to mind—but they pale in significance to his continued defence of Howard. Poor positional sense, being beaten at his near post and, inexplicably, performing star-jumps in a futile attempt to thwart advancing strikers, Martinez’s unstinting loyalty to Howard seemingly knows no bounds.
His goalkeeping performances often pay homage to his American heritage by following a Hollywood theme. Unfortunately for Evertonians, the only roles from Tinseltown he is able to reprise belong to either Superman and Eyes Wide Shut. Joel Robles must wonder what he has to do to stake a claim for the Blues’ No.1 spot.

Even a well-rounded display in their Capital One Cup victory over Norwich City on Tuesday night failed to win over Martinez. Decisive saves in both normal time and a nail-biting penalty shoot out could not sway his compatriot to consider displacing Howard. Within an hour of the one-time Atletico Madrid goalkeeper’s heroics, Martinez was reaffirming the 36-year-old’s status as Everton’s undisputed first-choice stopper ahead of Sunday’s visit of Sunderland.
Too often it seems that Howard’s reputation has belied his age and diminishing abilities. Repelling 16 Belgian attempts in last year’s World Cup certainly accentuated it, leading to a dubious Secretary of Defense moniker. Within barely a month, that vaunting looked incredibly flawed. His positioning for all six of Chelsea’s goals at a time when they were rampant Premier League champions-elect typified the folly of Stateside’s euphoria.
Martinez’s reluctance to source a new goalkeeper last January has, similarly, proven costly. The exception, rather than the rule, saw Howard restored to prominence earlier this season when a shut-out at Tottenham Hotspur in August suggested that his horror show against Manchester City a week prior had been a blip rather than a goalkeeping relapse.

Where Petr Cech will potentially safeguard an additional 10 points for Arsenal across the season, Howard is likely to cost Everton as many. That gulf in class was evident in the contrasting performances between the opposite numbers at the Emirates Stadium last weekend.
Martinez refused to accept any individual apportion of blame to Howard for the concession of two goals in as many minutes, instead pointing the finger at Everton’s defence as a collective. But with Howard evoking memories of David James, the flapping former Liverpool goalkeeper that was once a source of glee for the Gwladys Street, it is little wonder that it is a back line sapped of any confidence by its beleaguered goalkeeper.
Now just over two years into his Goodison Park reign, the former Wigan manager knows he can no longer clutch to the safety blanket of goodwill. That ship sailed during Everton’s dalliance with relegation. Hopes of a potential renaissance from Howard do not augur well. If Robles is not considered a viable alternative, another must be sourced in January. To do otherwise would only risk a renewed rancour.
 
Why Everton Must Seek Tim Howard’s Replacement ASAP
Richard Buxton | 0 Comments
newsnow_ab.gif
Football News 24/7

Familiarity, we are told, breeds contempt. The two have certainly gone hand-in-hand throughout Roberto Martinez’s Everton tenure. Yet scorn is the least of his worries where the by-product of his persistence with Tim Howard is concerned.
The Spaniard has often extolled the merits of the much-maligned—Arouna Kone and Antolin Alcaraz are just two that instantly spring to mind—but they pale in significance to his continued defence of Howard. Poor positional sense, being beaten at his near post and, inexplicably, performing star-jumps in a futile attempt to thwart advancing strikers, Martinez’s unstinting loyalty to Howard seemingly knows no bounds.
His goalkeeping performances often pay homage to his American heritage by following a Hollywood theme. Unfortunately for Evertonians, the only roles from Tinseltown he is able to reprise belong to either Superman and Eyes Wide Shut. Joel Robles must wonder what he has to do to stake a claim for the Blues’ No.1 spot.

Even a well-rounded display in their Capital One Cup victory over Norwich City on Tuesday night failed to win over Martinez. Decisive saves in both normal time and a nail-biting penalty shoot out could not sway his compatriot to consider displacing Howard. Within an hour of the one-time Atletico Madrid goalkeeper’s heroics, Martinez was reaffirming the 36-year-old’s status as Everton’s undisputed first-choice stopper ahead of Sunday’s visit of Sunderland.
Too often it seems that Howard’s reputation has belied his age and diminishing abilities. Repelling 16 Belgian attempts in last year’s World Cup certainly accentuated it, leading to a dubious Secretary of Defense moniker. Within barely a month, that vaunting looked incredibly flawed. His positioning for all six of Chelsea’s goals at a time when they were rampant Premier League champions-elect typified the folly of Stateside’s euphoria.
Martinez’s reluctance to source a new goalkeeper last January has, similarly, proven costly. The exception, rather than the rule, saw Howard restored to prominence earlier this season when a shut-out at Tottenham Hotspur in August suggested that his horror show against Manchester City a week prior had been a blip rather than a goalkeeping relapse.

Where Petr Cech will potentially safeguard an additional 10 points for Arsenal across the season, Howard is likely to cost Everton as many. That gulf in class was evident in the contrasting performances between the opposite numbers at the Emirates Stadium last weekend.
Martinez refused to accept any individual apportion of blame to Howard for the concession of two goals in as many minutes, instead pointing the finger at Everton’s defence as a collective. But with Howard evoking memories of David James, the flapping former Liverpool goalkeeper that was once a source of glee for the Gwladys Street, it is little wonder that it is a back line sapped of any confidence by its beleaguered goalkeeper.
Now just over two years into his Goodison Park reign, the former Wigan manager knows he can no longer clutch to the safety blanket of goodwill. That ship sailed during Everton’s dalliance with relegation. Hopes of a potential renaissance from Howard do not augur well. If Robles is not considered a viable alternative, another must be sourced in January. To do otherwise would only risk a renewed rancour.

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It really is maddening how Rooney is having this big debate about dropping him, but nothing about Howard. I'm obviously not expecting the same focus for the England captain and Howard, but anything to pressure the manager wouldn't go a miss.
 
Will be very interesting to see what will happen should he have an awful game at the weekend

That being said, I think he'll rise to the occasion before dropping again and we'll all be back in here after the Quarter Final match with Boro

I think being somewhat called out by Bobby will wake him up a little bit. He knows he's now on thin ice. I'm expecting a very good game from him Sunday. If he is poor again, I think Bobby has already set the stage for dropping him by lauding Joel's recent form. But he would prefer to give Tim the opportunity to keep his job based on his experience and track record of being a more than capable GK, albeit not world class enough for the pitchfork crowd
 
While I completely disagree with him regarding Howard, I understand what he's saying:
"One mistake doesn't mean you're out of the side."

The problem is that Howard has been awful for the past ~ 18 months overall.

I honestly wonder if the fact he had two howlers against Arsenal have kept him his place - Martinez doesn't want the younger players to get the impression that a few bad mistakes means you're out of the first team. Had he played mediocre, and Robles had played extremely well then the dropping would reflect positively on Robles rather than negatively on Howard.

It makes sense from a management perspective - but only in the vacuum of this week, once factoring in the past season the logic crumbles.
 
I have no problem with him backing players publicly. What do you want him to do, slag him off in the media? We all know he's not playing well.
 
I have no problem with him backing players publicly. What do you want him to do, [Poor language removed] him off in the media? We all know he's not playing well.

I want him to hold the player accountable for not controlling our six yard box. Whatever measures have been taken to date have not produced the desired results, as evidenced by the constant crosses being lobbed into our area by opposing teams. If the player is not able to improve, then he must make a change. Even Joe Hart was benched due to poor performances. Given his recent, limited history, Joel has earned an opportunity to start.
 
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