Tim Howard

[AndyC]

Sorry,cheese........I tend to base my opinion on what I hear fellows at the actual match or on trains travelling to the ground or in the pubs I frequent before and after the game say rather than a few random posters quoted on an Internet message board have to say.

And even in those quotes you have selectively plucked out the ether there is not one hint of anti Americanism, anti Unitedism or anti slothism.

Just anti bad goalkeepingism.

And I am sure even you are not at all happy with Timmy's contribution this season so far.

But all during Tim Howard's time here he was been received well by the critical mass of fans.

I would concur with this. He might not be universally popular at this present time, but over the course of his Everton career, he has been a good servant and appreciated for the vast majority of the time by the vast, vast majority of Evertonians.

The trouble is that many of my age generation remember not only the worlds greatest in Neville Southall, but also Gordon West - and I'll admit, it's just not fair to try and compare TH to either of those two.

 

[Walken]

What about Arsenals "invincibles"? Or the last RS team to win the league?

My knowledge of the RS isn't as detailed as your own suspicious knowledge, Lehmann was far from poor, displaced oliver kahn as german number one on the back of his arsenal form

 

[Dithering Dougie]

My knowledge of the RS isn't as detailed as your own suspicious knowledge, Lehmann was far from poor, displaced oliver kahn as german number one on the back of his arsenal form

You could have just said "yeah fair enough I'm chatting bubbles" it's less words.

 

[bluemangroup]

2010 IFFHS Goalkeeper of the Year

1. Iker CASILLAS Spain Real Madrid (Spa)
2. JÚLIO CÉSAR Brazil Internazionale Milan (Ita)
3. Petr CECH Czech Republic Chelsea (Eng)
4. Manuel NEUER Germany Schalke 04 (Ger)
5. Maarten STEKELENBURG Netherlands Ajax Amsterdam (Ned)
6. Víctor VALDES Spain FC Barcelona (Spa)
7. Fernando MUSLERA Uruguay Lazio Roma (Ita)
8. Edwin VAN DER SAR Netherlands Manchester United (Eng)
9. Gianluigi BUFFON Italy Juventus (Ita)
10. Timothy HOWARD United States Everton FC (Eng)

Your point? One award doesn't equate to many people. He's been good and was very good by his own standards at that time but at no point has Howard troubled the best in the world.

 

[Goat]

2010 IFFHS Goalkeeper of the Year

1. Iker CASILLAS Spain Real Madrid (Spa)
2. JÚLIO CÉSAR Brazil Internazionale Milan (Ita)
3. Petr CECH Czech Republic Chelsea (Eng)
4. Manuel NEUER Germany Schalke 04 (Ger)
5. Maarten STEKELENBURG Netherlands Ajax Amsterdam (Ned)
6. Víctor VALDES Spain FC Barcelona (Spa)
7. Fernando MUSLERA Uruguay Lazio Roma (Ita)
8. Edwin VAN DER SAR Netherlands Manchester United (Eng)
9. Gianluigi BUFFON Italy Juventus (Ita)
10. Timothy HOWARD United States Everton FC (Eng)

Is the number 10 different in America mate?

In England number 1 means the best mate.

 

[Prevenger17]

Walken versus Doug is top stuff. Keep it up, fellas.

 

[orly]

My knowledge of the RS isn't as detailed as your own suspicious knowledge, Lehmann was far from poor, displaced oliver kahn as german number one on the back of his arsenal form

lol

The forum has been absolutely superb recently

 

[ilikecheese]

Is the number 10 different in America mate?

In England number 1 means the best mate.

I said one of the best. Which that unbiased panel judged him to be. We was ninth in 2009.

 

[Walken]

You could have just said "yeah fair enough I'm chatting bubbles" it's less words.

pretty much what you nearly had to do last night, you got a royal spanking all over the forum, I've never seen the like before douglas, took you hours to regroup, now your even claiming goalkeepers aren't even important, you're slipping doug

 

[Goat]

I said one of the best. Which that unbiased panel judged him to be. We was ninth in 2009.

Thats great mate.

But 10th still isnt close to being 1 of the best, top 5 means your 1 of the best.

 

[bluemangroup]

And a huge swinging left comes crashing in from Walken.

 

[ilikecheese]

Thats great mate.

But 10th still isnt close to being 1 of the best, top 5 means your 1 of the best.

OK mate.

 

[Dithering Dougie]

pretty much what you nearly had to do last night, you got a royal spanking all over the forum, I've never seen the like before douglas, took you hours to regroup, now your even claiming goalkeepers aren't even important, you're slipping doug

Haha you'll have to point this out to me when you get some time!

But I never said keepers weren't important I pointed out how wrong you were but people expect that now so I suppose it was a bit pointless.

 

[bluemangroup]

In fact, why the bloody hell are we discussing whether he was good in 2010 when five years later he's been absolutely dogshart and is costing points?

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

Bad news lads, he's just signed a contract extension