peteblue
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Nice one Chico....
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Nice one Chico....
hallamblue
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dholliday
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Some of your posts probably get reported for their sheer ability to bore people to death though.
Judging by the response i got on the Trump thread, it wasn't boredom that got me reported, it was my opinions. Some openly resorted to tagging in mods. I get all kinds of insults, which ironically should be the posts getting reported.
It might be boring for you, but this heavily-polarised debate society we have now is a hot topic among the more thoughtful commentariat.
peteblue
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Indeed.....
Carl O'Ancelotti
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Sounds like you think you are more intellectually superior than the rest of us.
That might explain why your posts are verbose, long-winded and contain as many 'isms' as possible which makes them boring for others to read.
But carry on powwowing with the "more thoughtful commentariat".
dholliday
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that's original...
sounds more like people are projecting their own lack of self-worth on to others. it's a defence mechanism per the old trick of name-calling (in lieu of a counter-argument). see also the "troll" shouts. also known as attacking the man, not the ball:
you're boring, you're arrogant, you're a troll, you're rightwing etc
ok, what about the points i made, what do you think of those?
you're boring, you're arrogant, you're a troll, you're rightwing etc
internally, the one doing the name-calling has 'won' the argument, for he has levelled-down his opponent.
it's interesting psychology.
I used to think you were just a contrarian just for the sake of it. I still think that partially defines you.
You've proven that you are more than just that. You are also and identity politics driven white male social justice warrior.
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Oh should I have said social justice warrior for white males? Don't think you can deny that one.
The German doth protest too much, methinks.
dholliday
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you're a this, you're a that etc
Below is a rather verbose yet valid opinion on the subject of name-calling from a bloke on Quora who calls himself someone for whom "Argumentation Theory and Dialectical Method is a personal interest". This quote is just to demonstrate there's more of us out there!
The URL behind knowledge criterion I added myself in case anyone wasn't sure what he meant.
Advance warning: this may be boring...
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The general consensus is that a person does lose an argument when they resort to name calling.
Moreover, it is often the case that some very naïve persons suppose that being “witty” or “brilliant” or “clever” in responses called comebacks or just plain “bashing” another person, are knowledge criterion.
A rational person recognizes that these are not knowledge criterion.
It is unreasonable to think that if observers “laugh” it equates to an argument being “won”. Laughter, or even merely being humorous, is not a knowledge criterion. Resorting to name calling or personal ridicule of other persons are the stock-in-trade for those who merely seek to manipulate large numbers of persons, rather than offer articulation in the context of the distinction between truth and falsehood.
This is for example, the reason why a persons conception of a truth, should not be derived from the material offered on stage by a Comedian. If someone tries to adopt the Comedian’s methodology, and present it as a standing point in a public debate, they run the risk of embarrassment.
Personally, I have always enjoyed it when someone offers name calling, personal attacks, or petty ridicule of my person in a dialogue. I usually have little difficulty dealing with such persons.
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Below is a rather verbose yet valid opinion on the subject of name-calling from a bloke on Quora who calls himself someone for whom "Argumentation Theory and Dialectical Method is a personal interest". This quote is just to demonstrate there's more of us out there!
The URL behind knowledge criterion I added myself in case anyone wasn't sure what he meant.
Advance warning: this may be boring...
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The general consensus is that a person does lose an argument when they resort to name calling.
Moreover, it is often the case that some very naïve persons suppose that being “witty” or “brilliant” or “clever” in responses called comebacks or just plain “bashing” another person, are knowledge criterion.
A rational person recognizes that these are not knowledge criterion.
It is unreasonable to think that if observers “laugh” it equates to an argument being “won”. Laughter, or even merely being humorous, is not a knowledge criterion. Resorting to name calling or personal ridicule of other persons are the stock-in-trade for those who merely seek to manipulate large numbers of persons, rather than offer articulation in the context of the distinction between truth and falsehood.
This is for example, the reason why a persons conception of a truth, should not be derived from the material offered on stage by a Comedian. If someone tries to adopt the Comedian’s methodology, and present it as a standing point in a public debate, they run the risk of embarrassment.
Personally, I have always enjoyed it when someone offers name calling, personal attacks, or petty ridicule of my person in a dialogue. I usually have little difficulty dealing with such persons.
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Very Groupthink 2.0 of you.
I mean when you resort to Guardian article comments to support your opinion, what else can you call it but that? Groupthink 2.0.org? Self awareness would do you wonders.
BirkenheadBlue
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It may not be original, but it's certainly accurate mate. You bemoan the horrors of ad hominem, but then you go on about "group think" or pointedly highlight the bedazzling wonders of "thinking for yourself" while lamenting the sorry state of discourse these days... as if none of these are things that whoever you're replying to has never encountered or even considered.
You definitely have an "above the herd" mentality.
And that's coming from someone who generally tries to address the points you've made, rather than call you names, only to be met with much of what I've listed above.
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