So according to you. Everton conceded a second goal in a game that we all knew was over as soon as we conceded the first goal. Someone got their phone out and this was enough to turn dozens of away evertonians in blood thirsty racists?
Strange, if this did happen. Then why is it such a isolated incident? If the away support is so trigger happy why isnt this happening more often?
Also why isnt there a video of you? Its werid that theres all these videos of people fighting but a lone Evertonian sheilding a family from the reformation of the third Reich. Youd think that would of been recorded.
Ill be honest theres alot of holes in your story here and i think either youve made it up or leaving out/missing a good portion of details.
And for anyone asking why would anyone make that up?
I dont know but what i do know from being on this forum for years is every summer transfer window. Good sensible posters suddenly pretend their ITK for no reason.
If youre proven right, then I'll be more then happy to apologise obviously and accept ive been talking wham. But personally i feel like you're story couldnt be more suspect if it had kevin spacey with a limp in it.
So according to you. Everton conceded a second goal in a game that we all knew was over as soon as we conceded the first goal. Someone got their phone out and this was enough to turn dozens of away evertonians in blood thirsty racists?
Strange, if this did happen. Then why is it such a isolated incident? If the away support is so trigger happy why isnt this happening more often?
Also why isnt there a video of you? Its werid that theres all these videos of people fighting but a lone Evertonian sheilding a family from the reformation of the third Reich. Youd think that would of been recorded.
Ill be honest theres alot of holes in your story here and i think either youve made it up or leaving out/missing a good portion of details.
And for anyone asking why would anyone make that up?
I dont know but what i do know from being on this forum for years is every summer transfer window. Good sensible posters suddenly pretend their ITK for no reason.
If youre proven right, then I'll be more then happy to apologise obviously and accept ive been talking wham. But personally i feel like you're story couldnt be more suspect if it had kevin spacey with a limp in it.
I think I've explained it all pretty clearly tbh. I assume people generally only start videoing anything after they notice things happening. The 2 videos I have seen only start quite a bit after the actual fighting had started, and in turn that was a few moments after the intial confrontation of the lad in my row, who was seen filming the whole ground celebrating the win by those behind him and also by all the fans coming up the aisle to leave the ground... he had his camera held fairly high and was doing a 360°, and people simply assumed he was an Arsenal fan. Initially, that didn't really involve the black lads standing behind the main group of black people (who you see fighting in the vids), but they then reacted to that initial confrontation, presumably because they were with the lad and larger group who were being challenged. They then became the target of the mob who pushed into their row, and there was a bit of a stand-off, followed by lots of pushing and shoving before any real punches were thrown. By the time those videos start, these lads have already been forced several yards away from where they were originally stood (approx seat 620ish, row 13 or 14 (which was near the far aisle in those pictures), just behind me and their friends. By the end of the vids, they were taken out of their row at the next aisle, (the opposite end of their row from where it all started and away from the lad with camera).
Myself and another bloke blocked the end of our row when the lads initially tried to attack the black lad with the camera. Simply trying to stop any fighting and because I thought that they were family/friends of our players (which turned out to be the case) and moreso because there was what appeared to be black family between us and the lad doing the filming (including a woman and her youngster, who looked terrified).... all fairly clearly shown standing next to me in the video from above. Several others nearby also tried to stop it flaring-up, and also from continuing when it eventually did start, as shown in the video.
I didn't say that there were "dozens of blood-thirsty racists" at all, so no need for any exaggerated colourful descriptors or any other rather misplaced third reich or Kevin Spacey references, added for extra effect in your highly speculative post .... but unfortunately, I did hear some racist shouts at the start near me (is anyone really surprised/shocked, if so have you ever been a football match?). It is also nothing like posters speculating about being ITK during transfer windows, (which incidentally I've also never done)... I'm literally in the video standing next to main group of black people, where the whole incident started. I didn't even know about those videos when I made my initial post, and they show how it eventually played out, just as I described. I go to practically all the aways (occasionally even sitting in home sections), and as far as I can remember, I have never commented on any incidents I've seen, and only commented on this one because I was stood right next to the start of it, and not part of the 2nd, 3rd hand or other distant speculations/observations or even the confusion some had with an earlier incident where some actual Arsenal fans were ejected in the first half from a different part of the away section.