Current Affairs The Would Be Emperor Has No Clothes (aka POTUS 47)

[GoldenToffee]

I don't think being nice to other humans and just leaving them alone is a policy, however treating them like inferior citizens seems to be one for the Republican party. I'm glad you're excited to see fellow people suffer.

I don't think being told to use your born gender's bathroom and politely being told you cannot compete in women's sports as a man is particularly cruel to be honest. Are they encouraging people to attack them and drive them out of the country or something? It's not what I've read but I stand to be corrected if you've got proof of that.

 

[StDomingosGringo]

Butters doesn't do facts.

Yeah that’s why I thought I’d reply to you Hinchy

So it’s Butters. All makes sense now.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

I don't think being told to use your born gender's bathroom and politely being told you cannot compete in women's sports as a man is particularly cruel to be honest. Are they encouraging people to attack them and drive them out of the country or something? It's not what I've read but I stand to be corrected if you've got proof of that.

Why do you care what they're doing in a bathroom though. It's weird.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Why do you care what they're doing in a bathroom though. It's weird.

It's weird to not want young, vulnerable girls seeing fully grown men use their private space where they go to the toilet? What's weird, dangerous even, is you thinking that's in any way, shape or form acceptable. Young children are not developed enough to understand why they are being forced to share intimate spaces with men.

Those are two points (bathrooms/sports) I will never concede on the issue. Everything else when it comes to people deciding their genders, they can do what they want as long as it doesn't impact on freedom of speech and the two aforementioned issues.

You've got your perspective, I've got mine, and a majority of voting Americans would side with me. I respect you have an altering opinion - people are allowed to disagree.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

It's weird to not want young, vulnerable girls seeing fully grown men use their private space where they go to the toilet? What's weird, dangerous even, is you thinking that's in any way, shape or form acceptable. Young children are not developed enough to understand why they are being forced to share intimate spaces with men.

Those are two points (bathrooms/sports) I will never concede on the issue. Everything else when it comes to people deciding their genders, they can do what they want as long as it doesn't impact on freedom of speech and the two aforementioned issues.

You've got your perspective, I've got mine, and a majority of voting Americans would side with me. I respect you have an altering opinion - people are allowed to disagree.

Yep fair enough, there will be a lot more persecution in the future over more than just bathrooms imo.

 

[GoldenToffee]

Yep fair enough, there will be a lot more persecution in the future over more than just bathrooms imo.

There might very well be, and if so I would likely take your side on that.

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

There might very well be, and if so I would likely take your side on that.

A civil conversation in the CA thread, hang it in The Louvre

 

[Kurt.]

A civil conversation in the CA thread, hang it in The Louvre

Can’t be having that in here

*Reported

 

[bluestevon]

Yep fair enough, there will be a lot more persecution in the future over more than just bathrooms imo.

Likely so, the reason both of those areas (I'll add on the prison system sending biological males to female prisons as the third one) is because they are the ones most rational people can see a genuine issue/problem with.

The likes of the daily wire etc, focus on these specifically for example, but only a fool would think that's were the issue stops for them, they are just the acceptable argument they can publicly use - if they came out with what they REALLY wanted then most average people would castigate them.

The main question is how to solve the genuine areas of concern without feeding those who as you said would like to escalate it to widespread persecution and demonisation of anyone 'different'.

Dare I say, just common sense is needed, but whilst it's a political hot potato I doubt we'll see much. (Which doesn't benefit anyone genuinely effected by these matters)

 

[twoblue]

Water maybe too strong for them, perhaps a bottle of fresh air for a fiver…..

Would you not say American politics is more right wing than the uk?

 

[Hinchcliffe's Corner]

Likely so, the reason both of those areas (I'll add on the prison system sending biological males to female prisons as the third one) is because they are the ones most rational people can see a genuine issue/problem with.

The likes of the daily wire etc, focus on these specifically for example, but only a fool would think that's were the issue stops for them, they are just the acceptable argument they can publicly use - if they came out with what they REALLY wanted then most average people would castigate them.

The main question is how to solve the genuine areas of concern without feeding those who as you said would like to escalate it to widespread persecution and demonisation of anyone 'different'.

Dare I say, just common sense is needed, but whilst it's a political hot potato I doubt we'll see much. (Which doesn't benefit anyone genuinely effected by these matters)

I mean it's quite easy, just leave them alone.

 

[bluestevon]

I mean it's quite easy, just leave them alone.

Not going to happen though as long as certain issues don't get properly looked at. Sort them out in a sensible manner, then anyone pushing an anti agenda stands out as a clear bigot.

Womens sport, private spaces and the prison system.

The only three issues that have to be sorted.

All the rest that's thrown out there is by and large irrelevant without those three issues to fall back upon

 

[Amw79]

It's weird to not want young, vulnerable girls seeing fully grown men use their private space where they go to the toilet? What's weird, dangerous even, is you thinking that's in any way, shape or form acceptable. Young children are not developed enough to understand why they are being forced to share intimate spaces with men.

Those are two points (bathrooms/sports) I will never concede on the issue. Everything else when it comes to people deciding their genders, they can do what they want as long as it doesn't impact on freedom of speech and the two aforementioned issues.

You've got your perspective, I've got mine, and a majority of voting Americans would side with me. I respect you have an altering opinion - people are allowed to disagree.

Not to derail the thread too much, and I do get the 2 points on bathrooms and sports. But think your immovable position on bathrooms could lead to some outcomes you probably wouldn’t want.

Are you fighting tooth and nail to insist this guy only uses female bathrooms? That would probably be more of a shock to people than if he used the gents, no?

 

[Xizor]

Why are toilets a "genuine area of concern"? What are other people doing in them that I'm apparently not privy to?

 

[GoldenToffee]

Not to derail the thread too much, and I do get the 2 points on bathrooms and sports. But think your immovable position on bathrooms could lead to some outcomes you probably wouldn’t want.

Are you fighting tooth and nail to insist this guy only uses female bathrooms? That would probably be more of a shock to people than if he used the gents, no?

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I'd firstly need to know who this individual is to be able to comment on it. I've seen worse looking women like.