Current Affairs The Would Be Emperor Has No Clothes (aka POTUS 47)

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you'd have to hope that people respect the rules.

So just to be clear, you're trying to prevent criminal activity by implementing a system that can't actually be policed but relies on people respecting the rules?

Is there any sort of precedent for criminals not respecting society's rules that we should be concerned about before adopting your 'common sense' position en masse?
 
Thank you. So I'd like to add a point which would be regarding before/after transitioning. I'll state a very firm go to the bathroom of your born gender if you've not fully transitioned (I.e you're a bloke that likes wearing dresses and make up but has a cock and balls = men's bathroom). If you've transitioned, go to your new gender's bathroom (I.e you're that bloke but you've now had your cock and balls removed = women's bathroom).

If you feel like you identify with something that's neither male nor female, either don't go to the bathroom or look down your pants and that will tell you which bathroom you need to be using.

There should be absolutely no "But I want people to refer to me as a female even though I've got male genetalia so I insist on being allowed to use the female bathroom and I'm going to sue you if you prevent that from happening." No, if you want to be a woman then become a woman, then you may use the female bathroom like all other women.

Obviously some of this is hard to police because you can hardly force people to pull down their kecks to prove their gender, so you'd have to hope that people respect the rules. And if anybody using the incorrect bathroom is found to have committed any kind of crime while in there (clearly a very tiny number of men have used female bathrooms to perve on women), then come down on them like a tonne of bricks.



Also thank you for your transitioning point part - helped me better structure my point above.

A political party based on common sense? Shouldn't really be controversial should it!
It's not just tricky to enforce it's impossible to enforce.
There is absolutely zero capacity to determine who has got what in their trousers.
There are many many trans people out there who have socially transitioned and looks completely female/male except for what's down there.
So in these instances what do these people do? Where do they go to the toilet?
 
@GoldenToffee and @bluestevon would perform a citizens arrest the moment you stepped through the door.
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Three years from now and this circle jerk is over page 5000 with the same tired nonsense.

/echo chamber
If the echo chamber is wanting people to treat eachother with respect, then count me in. When you're ready to add something constructive to that, you're welcome too. You laugh at rape, child abuse, racism, bigotry, trans issues and "wokeism", but I'd still forgive you.
 
Excellent post. It's really not a lot, but made to be a huge deal by one side of the political spectrum.

It's also something that I'd imagine could be pretty easily sorted if you simply used common sense.

Private spaces, if you have fully transitioned then you use the one for what you now are, if you haven't then you use your biological one.

Same for the prison system.

Sport, if you went through puberty then that's the category in sport you compete in, otherwise you possess an unfair biological advantage. (Not enough to set up a separate category for only trans athletes otherwise that would hd e been a third option)

Would that be acceptable or seen as persecution and restricting rights, I guess activists would say it was discriminatory.

Do either of you know any actual Trans people personally?
 
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