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Current Affairs The Would Be Emperor Has No Clothes (aka POTUS 47)
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President-elect Trump confirmed Monday that he is planning to declare a national emergency and use the U.S. military to carry out mass deportations. Why it matters: Trump made his promise to deport millions of undocumented immigrants one of the cornerstones of his 2024 campaign, and his team has already begun strategizing how to carry its plan out. A Truth Social post early Monday is the first time the president-elect has confirmed how his administration will execute the controversial plan.
Driving the news: Tom Fitton, the president of the conservative group Judicial Watch, posted on Truth Social earlier this month that Trump was "prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program." Trump reposted Fitton's comment Monday with the caption, "TRUE!!"
The big picture: There are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrantsliving in the U.S. Trump's mass deportations are expected to impact roughly 20 million families across the country.
Driving the news: Tom Fitton, the president of the conservative group Judicial Watch, posted on Truth Social earlier this month that Trump was "prepared to declare a national emergency and will use military assets to reverse the Biden invasion through a mass deportation program." Trump reposted Fitton's comment Monday with the caption, "TRUE!!"
The big picture: There are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrantsliving in the U.S. Trump's mass deportations are expected to impact roughly 20 million families across the country.
- Immigration advocates and lawyers are preparing to counter the plan in court.
- The president-elect's team is aiming to craft executive orders that can withstand legal challenges to avoid a similar defeat that befell Trump's Muslim ban in his first term, Politico reported.
- Their plans also include ending the parole program for undocumented immigrants from Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua and Venezuela, per Politico.
- This includes tapping Tom Homan, the former acting head of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), to serve as his "border czar."
- In addition, Trump nominated South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem as his secretary of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS
I feel so foolish
Is everything okay at home ?
20 million families. That’s insane. I’m generally in favour of freedom of movement but how are so many people able to get work without correct documentation in the US? Lots of people must be turning a blind eye.
Can’t help but feel everyone would have been better off if he’d beaten Biden 4 years ago.
He’s never been the same since he had his heart broken by a man from China.
That and getting knocked out by a lady boy midget.
If you're illegally in the US you aren't really in a position to be complaining about the threat of being kicked out, are you*?
That having been said...
There will be people that have illegally entered in recent years, and people that entered illegally decades ago, so it's a topic that needs to be handed sensitively and sensibly by those in charge.
*There will be victims of human trafficking that had no say in their illegal entry to the country, and children of parents who entered illegally that obviously also had no say in the matter.
**There will also be people that fled natural disasters.
I generally don't see how rewarding parents for their law-breaking is the right path to go down. Unless their parents have been significant contributors to their community for a significant period of time, the family shouldn't be allowed to jump the immigration queue just because they felt like the law didn't apply to them.
Regards people that entered a long time ago, they will clearly have deep ties to their areas and will undoubtedly have contributed a lot. I'm sure some kind of amnesty could be drawn up for this group of people.
A vast majority of these people undertook journeys of thousands of miles to enter the US. They clearly passed through multiple safe countries on the way, countries that in a majority of cases would have been much easier for them to settle in due to their background and language.
Just like in the UK, most of those that enter illegally chose to go through Turkey, Greece, Hungary, Germany, Italy, France etc. as they fancied living in the UK instead. You can't be allowed to pick and choose which country you illegally settle in as the numerous safe countries you pass through aren't deemed good enough for you.
I'm keeping a keen eye on development in this as it's a very complex topic and Trump has made some very big promises - some that I don't think he'll be able to stick to in as timely a manner as he's suggesting.
*exceptions noted here.
**potential exceptions here.
That having been said...
There will be people that have illegally entered in recent years, and people that entered illegally decades ago, so it's a topic that needs to be handed sensitively and sensibly by those in charge.
*There will be victims of human trafficking that had no say in their illegal entry to the country, and children of parents who entered illegally that obviously also had no say in the matter.
**There will also be people that fled natural disasters.
I generally don't see how rewarding parents for their law-breaking is the right path to go down. Unless their parents have been significant contributors to their community for a significant period of time, the family shouldn't be allowed to jump the immigration queue just because they felt like the law didn't apply to them.
Regards people that entered a long time ago, they will clearly have deep ties to their areas and will undoubtedly have contributed a lot. I'm sure some kind of amnesty could be drawn up for this group of people.
A vast majority of these people undertook journeys of thousands of miles to enter the US. They clearly passed through multiple safe countries on the way, countries that in a majority of cases would have been much easier for them to settle in due to their background and language.
Just like in the UK, most of those that enter illegally chose to go through Turkey, Greece, Hungary, Germany, Italy, France etc. as they fancied living in the UK instead. You can't be allowed to pick and choose which country you illegally settle in as the numerous safe countries you pass through aren't deemed good enough for you.
I'm keeping a keen eye on development in this as it's a very complex topic and Trump has made some very big promises - some that I don't think he'll be able to stick to in as timely a manner as he's suggesting.
*exceptions noted here.
**potential exceptions here.
The exact numbers are hard to know, for obvious reasons. Some have it less like Pew
What we know about unauthorized immigrants living in the U.S. | Pew Research Center
The unauthorized immigrant population in the U.S. grew to 11 million in 2022, but remained below the peak of 12.2 million in 2007.
www.pewresearch.org
Varies quite a lot by state, probably +5% of population here in California
The immigration system has been broken for many years, not sure unless you have actually gone through it you appreciate how Byzantine/costly/time consuming it is to get a visa, especially for someone without a degree and a bunch of lawyers to go through the paperwork.
And many jobs are just not attractive to US citizens, and certainly not at the pay scales on offer.
A reworked immigration system would help but GOP have kept on blocking anything for years.
What a dope.
Looking at paying for the tax cuts that disproportionately benefit the rich by cutting programs for the poor….what a surprise.
Sadly you don't appear to keep a sufficiently close eye to do some research into why people choose the destinations they do. If only such information was out there.
It’s explained to people over and over again and makes no difference. People want to remain ignorant.
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