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[Noisy noise annoys]

Cool
There is an awful lot of therapy and counselling pre-surgery though

 

[Oddball]

White privilege was the term that I was responding to, has nothing to do with my overall belief of what other privilege exists, as mentioned, just responding to one poster who used that one phrase.

I certainly don't believe that privilege stops at just one race or ethnicity, there are thousands/millions of different cultures in this world and some will have a more equal society and some will have a more imbalanced society. There is actual facts that, in most western cultures, African/Caribbean slavery happened and therefore if you were white you were privileged. 1/Luckily we live in a society where this is not only frowned upon but there are laws, if you read my whole post you would have seen that I differentiated the past from the present, so I am certainly not brainwashed but I am not naïve enough to think that some ethnicities are subjugated, including white people.

Also, why would I think that only non-whites can be minorities, where does it indicate that this is my belief? I mean the literal definition of a minority is less instances of something happening, my job is maths and data analysis so it would be pretty silly of me not to know the definition of the word minority. I mean I truly understand that if I go to certain parts of africa, I will the minority, or an island that is just little people, I will also be the minority.

Actual facts -No sh*t sherlock! The Atlantic slave trade is forever being banged on about as if there was never any other slavery!!! Jesus H. Christ! - Change the record Jimmy. Everyone lived a brutalized life way back when except the robber barons etc.
1/ Laws against slavery, yet there is more slavery now than ever. Laws schmaws.
btw- the British Empire fought alone for a long time to end slavery yet those places you would call "less privileged" carried on those barbaric practices, a lot of them within living memory.

 

[coollino]

Actual facts -No sh*t sherlock! The Atlantic slave trade is forever being banged on about as if there was never any other slavery!!! Jesus H. Christ! - Change the record Jimmy. Everyone lived a brutalized life way back when except the robber barons etc.
1/ Laws against slavery, yet there is more slavery now than ever. Laws schmaws.
btw- the British Empire fought alone for a long time to end slavery yet those places you would call "less privileged" carried on those barbaric practices, a lot of them within living memory.

Evening pal

 

[Oddball]

After such esteemed and learned proclamations such as "People like you persecuted Alan Turin" and "you`re judging Albert Epstein by his sexuality- you`re a disgrace and a moron because Epstein wasn`t a politician he was probably the greatest scientist of the 20th century" and the delusional non-history lesson pertaining to "There was a coup in 2014 led by the US - phony elections etc and they put Zelensky in, he`s a puppet" our very own in-house embarrassment continues with his impressive campaign of self-embarrassment and stupidity here tonight. [golf clap]

File this under- Wouldn`t know a joke if it gave him a hair-cut. ?

#DearOhDear

 

[Oddball]

No he didnt mate.

You need to go and read up on the stuff you say.

George Orwell was a committed socialist and anti-fascist all his life. He went to fight for the international brigades in Spain, and actual antifa (not the lentil waving hippies that seem to trigger everyone today). He famously remarked on his experiences "that the only way to debate with a fascist is with a bullet through the back of his head".

He was vehemently clear in what needed to happen when faced with fascism, but also had the ability to be critical of regimes that had veered off from their socialist course.

Unfortunately you've got no idea what fascism is, and are one of many people who misuse the term to substitute for people you dont like. Just because you dont like someone, doesnt make them a fascist.

You are the establishments mouthpiece. You come up with nonsense that is aimed to distract from people trying to help make the world a better, more equal place. The other day you were defending peadophiles because they were right wing. You slander socialists trying to fight for a better world. You misquote/misunderstand Orwell. I doubt its deliberate, and theres no polite way of saying it, other than to point out that you are the establishment in what you argue.

And that's fine too, but you just need to be aware of it.

And I say all of the above in the context of having quite profound difficulties with all of the above (anarchists, hope not hate, Orwell) etc, but at least being able to understand that any criticism levied against all groups has to have some grain of accuracy to have any modicum of value. Essentially I have the maturity to criticise antifa while knowing they are not fascists, because I'm not 12 and realise that a fascist is not just somebody I dont like.

I`m not talking about Orwells socialist beliefs etc Jeez mate! - you never "get" my take on anything.
I was talking about 1984, The Party etc, war is peace, 2+2=5 and so on.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I think the issue with trans is that it shouldn't be lumped in with LGBTQ imo. As you say why should anyone care what another person does which I agree completely. If a gay person is sleeping with other men and a lesbian is holding hands with another woman it has no effect on anyone else.

With Transgender however it does effect society - transitioning itself is often paid for on the NHS at a time the health service is on its knees there is a question as to should this be publicly funded.

Away from the financial side of things a trans persons friends and family have to watch someones change their entire identity forever which must be difficult even if they are overall happy for the person transitioning. Then you have wider society - employers, You, I, Lucinda etc who have to over look natural science and biology facts, have to be careful in what we say or do as not to offend someone unintentionally and be labelled a transphobe, for women as I said before there is the controversy of trans taking part in female sports/competitions, using shared bathrooms which for some do find uncomfortable.

So on that point Lobster I would agree completely that if a person transitioned using their own money, didnt care if someone called them Mr/Mrs, use of pronouns and if they had their own sports division/restrooms/changing rooms etc. then it would be of no one's business whatsoever however that isn't the case currently so I do think everyone has a right to have an input into the whole process and regulations regarding this - particularly the issue of teens being allowed to transition when most 16-18 years old dont know what day it is half the time never mind being able to make such a massive life changing decision that cant simply be reversed at the drop of a hat.

It must be difficult for your friends and family watching you transition into a three eyed spiritualist.

 

[verreauxi]

#FatherOfTheYear Returns

Back after a late-night meal of flat ale and spoon-from-a-can beef ravioli, which gives a lovely and unpredictable flair to the incoherent, cringey babble.

File this under- Wouldn`t know a joke if it gave him a hair-cut. ?

#DearOhDear

Haha. We all know this is untrue, especially you. This is the most ham-fisted cringey attempt to walk-back on your ignorant gaff. No one is buying it you rambling incoherent bitter fool.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

Actual facts -No sh*t sherlock! The Atlantic slave trade is forever being banged on about as if there was never any other slavery!!! Jesus H. Christ! - Change the record Jimmy. Everyone lived a brutalized life way back when except the robber barons etc.
1/ Laws against slavery, yet there is more slavery now than ever. Laws schmaws.
btw- the British Empire fought alone for a long time to end slavery yet those places you would call "less privileged" carried on those barbaric practices, a lot of them within living memory.

It was at this very moment that he finally outed himself as a thick, know-nothing, brain dead, air headed, dinosaur mail reading c****

Utter f****** clueless Tony
Edit, your lack of knowledge makes you a total disgrace

 

[Rita_Poon]

It was at this very moment that he finally outed himself as a thick, know-nothing, brain dead, air headed, dinosaur mail reading c****

Utter f****** clueless Tory
Edit, your lack of knowledge makes you a total disgrace

It's just another pete toss-rag blue. Spouting off and demanding answers. Laugh at it. It's easier. One day it will be gone permanently.

Then we can all laugh.

 

[Oddball]

I love people who 'quote' Orwell but haven't read any of his books, it's incredible how wrong they get it. So embarrassing

You should be embarrassed not recognizing the obvious Orwellian similarities between Antifa are fascists and freedom is slavery etc.
btw- Hope not Hate stand for hatred and hopelessness - Orwells insane 1984 society has come true right before your eyes but you still advocate a Boris Johnson mind-set and you don`t even know it.

#NoteToCoolino2+2DoesNotEqualFive

 

[Goat]

 

[Oddball]

I think this is kinda true and that the concept of white privilege is now so misunderstood and toxic that it’s pretty much meaningless.

But I can’t help also thinking that the same problem has happened with the ‘Black Lives Matter’ slogan, as well as the ‘Defund The Police’ idea.

All these labels and slogans, had pretty clear meanings and concepts attached to them, but have had their original intent stripped away from them, and a different meaning substituted in it’s place, so the ideas they originally were communicating has been lost.

Either the people who came up with these labels are just really bad at marketing, or some people are trying really hard to misunderstand, and misconstrue so that it becomes impossible to talk about the ideas.

What were they?- specifically BLM

 

[coollino]

You should be embarrassed not recognizing the obvious Orwellian similarities between Antifa are fascists and freedom is slavery etc.
btw- Hope not Hate stand for hatred and hopelessness - Orwells insane 1984 society has come true right before your eyes but you still advocate a Boris Johnson mind-set and you don`t even know it.

#NoteToCoolino2+2DoesNotEqualFive

Good to see you're keeping well

 

[Oddball]

It was at this very moment that he finally outed himself as a thick, know-nothing, brain dead, air headed, dinosaur mail reading c****

Utter f****** clueless Tony
Edit, your lack of knowledge makes you a total disgrace

You see your problem here Joe, you`re attacking the person instead of his/her argument. Doing this negates anything you`ve posted.

#PoorShow
#MustDoBetter

 

[Rita_Poon]

You should be embarrassed not recognizing the obvious Orwellian similarities between Antifa are fascists and freedom is slavery etc.
btw- Hope not Hate stand for hatred and hopelessness - Orwells insane 1984 society has come true right before your eyes but you still advocate a Boris Johnson mind-set and you don`t even know it.

#NoteToCoolino2+2DoesNotEqualFive

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