carlos21
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Oh yes there is mate,
The UFC and Mixed Martial Arts Thread
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Azzurri
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Yep. Page 18 here: http://static.ibjjfdb.com/Campeonato/000415/en-US/Results.pdf shows a mid heavyweight coming 2nd in an open weight class containing numerous people at heavyweight, super heavyweight and ultra heavyweight.
Speaking of things that are, as you say, a "tad irrelevant", his boxing skills would mean absolutely nothing in a grappling situation.
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@Steve0
http://static.ibjjfdb.com/Campeonato/000450/en-US/Results.pdf
Barbosa here, a lightweight, finishes second in an open weight class again containing loads of players in the 5 weight classes above him.
Mayweather's strength would mean nothing in a BJJ match with Rousey, which is what it would be if she could take him down as he couldn't strike.
You've had a nightmare chief.
http://static.ibjjfdb.com/Campeonato/000450/en-US/Results.pdf
Barbosa here, a lightweight, finishes second in an open weight class again containing loads of players in the 5 weight classes above him.
Mayweather's strength would mean nothing in a BJJ match with Rousey, which is what it would be if she could take him down as he couldn't strike.
You've had a nightmare chief.
I started as a boxer mate, that's my main sport
And no one is being cocky, you are arguing a point that you obviously know nothing about and a few people have disagreed. No need to be an idiot and post nonsense about being cocky and getting knocked out.
Weird logic. There's a big difference between keeping range and combining it with effective take down defence and counter striking.
All Rousey would have to do is survive one punch coming in for the takedown, and once she completes a takedown it'd be over. She's have him tapping inside a minute and Mayweather would have no knowledge whatsoever in how to escape the situation.
You don't seem to know anything about MMA, so it's puzzling that you comment on it to be honest.
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Fair to say that SteveO has had an absolute Chernobyl in this thread
He made a point and people disagreed, he took it persoanally when it wasnt meant to be. He has his opinion we have ours. I know for a fact that before i learnt how to defend takedowns i had no chance of staying on my feet from a shoot. I have also been tied in knots on the floor by people much smaller than me.
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Well that isn't all is it? Secondly, she didn't survive one punch from holly holm lol.
She just wouldn't complete a takedown. As soon as she stepped Inside she'd have her head knocked off.
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Like I said, these guys aren't boxers. Nobody who is serious sincerely believes rouser would bet mayweather lol
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Page 18? Bloody hell lol
MMA guys got a false idea of the importance of grappling because in the early days there were t many strikers.
The sport is becoming more and more dominated by boxers, for obvious reasons. And it's a trend that will continue.
You are getting confused mate. In the early days it wasn't mma, the concept was to pit different fighting arts against each other. The wrestlers were dominant due to the 'high level strikers' having no defence against a shoot. The strikers couldn't get a punch off in time. Then the sport evolved into mixed martial arts. Nowadays regardless of their original discipline, they all have high level stand up, wrestling and ground. It is no longer boxer v grappler but mma v mma.
Have you ever tried defending a takedown attempt mate? It's harder than it looks. I'd be incredibly surprised if Mayweather, without training, would be able to go 10 seconds without being on the floor. James Toney couldn't for a start.
In an MMA match, 90% of the time an MMA fighter wins. In a boxing match, 99% of the time the boxer wins. It really is as simple as that.
"Well, in '93, I was in prison, so there wouldn’t have been a fight, but there is no way I would have won. I had no idea what was going on with that type of fighting and would’ve been taken by surprise. I would have had to train in that particular art of fighting before that happened. That’s a particular art. You’re not going to go in there with just your hand and not have a great ground game. You also need a great wrestling game to be successful, and you won’t be exciting, as well. You have to have both games. You have to know how to wrestle and box. That’s just the truth."
- Mike Tyson, speaking about how a hypothetical fight with Royce Gracie would have went in 1993.
- Mike Tyson, speaking about how a hypothetical fight with Royce Gracie would have went in 1993.
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Ok mate.
McGregor aside, who's only ever fought one wrestler and got battered by him for two rounds on very short notice, can you name me someone "dominating" who's got no grappling background? Because I can name you Weidman, Johnson, Cormier, Jones, Werdum, Velasquez, Edgar, Dillashaw, GSP, Dos Anjos, the Diaz brothers, Fedor, Dan Henderson, Ben Henderson, Nurmagamedov etc. who were all wrestlers or high level BJJ players before entering MMA.
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