wilfjacko
Player Valuation: £8m
It still is.
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..it is Wilf, but in those days it was washed out and they all looked like bruisers.
I do see them as a bit of non entity.......it's just turning into a bit of local squabble now whilst the 2 Manchester clubs are at the top of the league and looking like they will continue to be there for the foreseeable future.
I'm not too arsed about what they're doing, apart from derby day, as they're not troubling those winning any silverware and haven't done for some time however we really need to sort our own house out.
I'm not too arsed about what they're doing, apart from derby day, as they're not troubling those winning any silverware and haven't done for some time however we really need to sort our own house out.
allezlesbleus
Player Valuation: £35m
Brought up in the 60s to see them as mortal foes on pitch but have polite respect for "proper" Reds who would go to the match. My dad used to go regularly to Anfield in 40s and 50s "to throw the ball back when they had all left early!!" He always gave the impression we were the first and best and they were to be pitied...until Shankly woke them up then it was full on rivalry...
Began to see they were not quite like us at home derbies when they would detach the barriers in the park end and they seemed to have issues with us I never spotted the other way around. Trying to knock us off our merseyside perch in a way. They were very savvy from the off as Europe and media became influential.
70s at school were terrible how glory hunting non match going reds jumped on the media bandwagon and they won so much. Early rookie error by me falling for the you should back us in Europe line despite warning from wise dad! Wait and see he said...sure enough they rubbed my nose in even more!!! Worlds best/worst winners!!
Various Derby beatings or hard luck stories strengthened the animosity and frustration that you could not just chat footy with them without it becoming we're great Everton are £&£@...the more you met the more it was the same...have none in my close family or friendship group so I am in a bit of an Everton bubble.
Emlyn Hughes, Tommy smith etc etc
80s, 90s 00s we all know the pattern. So can't add anything new to that debate but honestly lads even though we were very badly run after the glory years in the 80s how could anyone have respect for that club or its fans after Heysel and there subsequent celebrations of its impact on us. And the blatant lies about Everton fans mocking Hillsborough.
Their sense of entitlement knows no bounds so although hate is a bit strong I can't stand anything about them, would love to see them go bust!!
One other story though. Madame Allezlesbleus is from non footy background and converted to Everton for me.
In early dating phase came the question why do you hate Liverpool so much. Wait until you have told any of them you support Everton was my cryptic reply.
Sure enough a wee while later I shared a student house with one of the biggest classic red noses from Luton though dad was a scouse. Insufferable in every way. We lost a Derby and I came back to my room decorated in LFC slogans in shaving foam!! Took it like a man! Same season, Madame Allezlesbleus goes to first Derby , the Imre Varadi cup match, Nirvana! We get a bit drunk and she puts the score just on his door in shaving foam!!
All hell breaks loose the next morning he loses plot and refuses to talk for a week!!! Smug smile from me...that darling tells you all you need to know!!!
I would always acknowledge their very good treatment of Rhys Jones' mum and dad though to be fair.
Began to see they were not quite like us at home derbies when they would detach the barriers in the park end and they seemed to have issues with us I never spotted the other way around. Trying to knock us off our merseyside perch in a way. They were very savvy from the off as Europe and media became influential.
70s at school were terrible how glory hunting non match going reds jumped on the media bandwagon and they won so much. Early rookie error by me falling for the you should back us in Europe line despite warning from wise dad! Wait and see he said...sure enough they rubbed my nose in even more!!! Worlds best/worst winners!!
Various Derby beatings or hard luck stories strengthened the animosity and frustration that you could not just chat footy with them without it becoming we're great Everton are £&£@...the more you met the more it was the same...have none in my close family or friendship group so I am in a bit of an Everton bubble.
Emlyn Hughes, Tommy smith etc etc
80s, 90s 00s we all know the pattern. So can't add anything new to that debate but honestly lads even though we were very badly run after the glory years in the 80s how could anyone have respect for that club or its fans after Heysel and there subsequent celebrations of its impact on us. And the blatant lies about Everton fans mocking Hillsborough.
Their sense of entitlement knows no bounds so although hate is a bit strong I can't stand anything about them, would love to see them go bust!!
One other story though. Madame Allezlesbleus is from non footy background and converted to Everton for me.
In early dating phase came the question why do you hate Liverpool so much. Wait until you have told any of them you support Everton was my cryptic reply.
Sure enough a wee while later I shared a student house with one of the biggest classic red noses from Luton though dad was a scouse. Insufferable in every way. We lost a Derby and I came back to my room decorated in LFC slogans in shaving foam!! Took it like a man! Same season, Madame Allezlesbleus goes to first Derby , the Imre Varadi cup match, Nirvana! We get a bit drunk and she puts the score just on his door in shaving foam!!
All hell breaks loose the next morning he loses plot and refuses to talk for a week!!! Smug smile from me...that darling tells you all you need to know!!!
I would always acknowledge their very good treatment of Rhys Jones' mum and dad though to be fair.
wilfjacko
Player Valuation: £8m
Yeah it was. Smith and Yeats being the biggest pair.
Ya lost me right there, Catcher.
I am sure I am of more “mature” years than your good self but I hate the buggers more and more with each passing season
I remember speaking to The Esk recently and he told me it will come back!
I haven't got time to hate them anymore. There's a list of about 100 things I've got going on currently and LFC don't enter my priorities. I appreciate everyone is different, but I can't say I hold hate for them. Some of that is down to moving beyond adolescence, I feel less hatred for most things now.
And what made you come home mate?
BigBlueConk
Player Valuation: £70m
Got loads of RS mates and every one is decent.
Football is banter.
Then you get the RS who you do not know, but still comment.
It is they that cause any resentment and need to pipe down.
Then they will say the same about us.
The ideaology of football supporters is to provoke a negative reaction from your biggest adversaries.
Works doesn't it.
To think we went toe to toe with them for a while holds a fond place for me.
Then we slipped away. That is not their fault by the way.
The biggest problem Everton had was the people running Everton and we have been trying to catch up to the RS ever since.
Football is banter.
Then you get the RS who you do not know, but still comment.
It is they that cause any resentment and need to pipe down.
Then they will say the same about us.
The ideaology of football supporters is to provoke a negative reaction from your biggest adversaries.
Works doesn't it.
To think we went toe to toe with them for a while holds a fond place for me.
Then we slipped away. That is not their fault by the way.
The biggest problem Everton had was the people running Everton and we have been trying to catch up to the RS ever since.
Re Madriditis; Well he'd better find out just how Cruyff went about it
@catcherintherye; any light on that?
He just focussed on on the history and tradition of Barcelona, and looked to find the optimum way for them to be successful in their own right. They stopped going on about pieces of misfortune they had suffered and tried to define themselves around positives they could and did achieve.
We need to start talking about the unique achievements in our history. We didn't win the European cup in 1986, but that shouldn't stop us recreating a team that can win it again. Look at what Busby did. It should drive the club to right that wrong.
goodisonopheliac
Player Valuation: £30m
Basically, I have a bluenose uncle who started taking my little brother to matches (he had two daughters from a previous marriage who are also massive blues, and one of them is now married to a Huddersfield fan, so last weekend must have been fun in their house). He invited me as well but I didn't want to go at first cos I was a bit scared of the prospect. Bro' switched from Spurs to Everton - he was at one of the FA Cup run matches in 94-95, I think it was Derby. One season later, they're going the final game and I get asked if I want to come, I think, "Why not" because my brother seemed to love the matches so much. I go the match, we beat Villa 1-0 (Joe Parkinson goal). I'm undecided as to which team to support. I had nagged my mum to take me to Klanfield when she asked me how I could call myself a Liverpool supporter when I never went the match. She didn't. I have no idea why she stopped being a kopite, I think she just got tired of what football was becoming. This is just as well because my current stepdad hates them.
Anyway, back in 1996, the RS lose the FA Cup final thanks to a terrible attempt at clearance by David James, I get no end of grief from my then best mate (a Man United fan), and I switch teams. Everton are then rubbish. I get blamed for this. I am also the only girl in my year who supports them.
Incidentally, I was at the final game of the 97-98 season and we had to explain to our visiting Aussie relatives, who came with us, that no, Everton matches don't normally involve pitch invasions. And one of the teachers, who was also a blue, took a group of us to watch us lose to Spurs, I think it was in 2001.
ETA: I have another uncle who's a Manc and supports Man City, and we were talking last year about how I could have been a City fan instead if he'd started taking us to matches first. Now THAT would have been grim. When I was in high school, City were terrible, though didn't they beat us 5-0 or something mad like that in the early 00s?
toffee-L
Player Valuation: £20m
If I was a billionaire the first thing I'd do is buy Liverpool, liquidate all of their asset, drive a JCB straight through Anfield and then volunteer all of their players to a North Korean space programme and blast them off into space. Yeah I don't like them very much. 
goodisonopheliac
Player Valuation: £30m
I'd buy all their players. Except Lovren and Mignolet. They can keep those two.
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Their fans are behind their club and will stand up for it no matter how poor they are. Some of our fans are the first ones to put the boot into Everton as soon as the first opportunity arises. If we don’t talk ourselves up no one else will.
So, who are this "Liverpool" you write of?
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