The Oldies Thread

Cooperrman, many, many thanks for those. The two main beers were Anchor and Tiger. I preferred the Anchor. On the Southampton dockings I see the troopship Dunera. Was that the one your grandad was on? I too came back on the Dunera which took 42 days to reach Southampton due to the Suez crisis which closed the Suez canal. We had to go round the cape. Only consolation was a days shore leave in Cape Town.
Many thanks again and please pass my thanks and best wishes to your Nan.
Yes he returned on that ship.
I'd love to know more about what that journey was like. What was an average day on board like?

He told me years ago about seeing the pyramids from the Suez canal on the way out there.

We also found a poem. We doubt it's my Grandad's work... Not really his thing. You might enjoy perhaps...
 

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Cooperman, thanks for that. One thing I was always thankful for is that I never had an overnight patrol which entailed sleeping in the jungle. You just don't know what crawls over you in the night and the jungle is so thick that it's pitch black, even when the moon is out. I only ever did day patrols.
The Dunera troopship was the smallest troopship on the fleet. It only weighed about 13,000 tons which was half the weight of troopships like the Empire Fowey. So if you hit bad weather you really knew about it. No one allowed on deck!
There was very little to do on the troopship. They allocated jobs out but with over 1,000 troops on board, jobs only lasted an hour or so. Pay was restricted to (from memory) £1 per week - not enough to get drunk on, which was the objective. The brigs were always full though! The rest of the spare time was usually taken up with sun bathing or deck hockey played with walking sticks and a string quoit. Lethal game!
We stopped at Dakar in what was then French West Africa, (now Senegal). We were supposed to be playing the French Foreign Legion at football (and I was centre-half) but it got cancelled. Never found out why and am still disappointed!
Really enjoyed that poem, brought back many memories. If you come across any other stuff, please let me know.

Cheers, and thanks again.
 
With respect to the swimming baths discussion of a few pages ago I always remember going to hoylake baths and going outside on 'the shore' and getting my feet covered in oily mud. Where were the environmental protections then?
 
Yes he returned on that ship.
I'd love to know more about what that journey was like. What was an average day on board like?

He told me years ago about seeing the pyramids from the Suez canal on the way out there.

We also found a poem. We doubt it's my Grandad's work... Not really his thing. You might enjoy perhaps...
cooperman, the last page of the poem reminded me. It covers letters to sweethearts. The most numerous incoming letters were the 'Dear John's'. I reckon about half our barrack room got one. They usually started arriving after the recipient had been out there for about 12 months. I was lucky in that I had amicably split up with my girlfriend before I left for the Far East.
The other interesting thing is the difference between day patrols and the longer form. In the longer form, you obviously have to cook meals and do every day essential things. The day patrols were more disciplined. The jungle was so thick that there could be 20 terrorists 50 yards away and you wouldn't know. This is why ambushes were one of the main tactics out there. So, there was no talking, hand signals only. No smoking, (cigarette smoke and smell spreads through the jungle) and certainly no cooking, no fires. Cold rations and water. It is surprising how sound travels through the jungle and you made sure to tread lightly and avoid making any unnecessary noise.
 
Simpler times.

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cooperman, the last page of the poem reminded me. It covers letters to sweethearts. The most numerous incoming letters were the 'Dear John's'. I reckon about half our barrack room got one. They usually started arriving after the recipient had been out there for about 12 months. I was lucky in that I had amicably split up with my girlfriend before I left for the Far East.
The other interesting thing is the difference between day patrols and the longer form. In the longer form, you obviously have to cook meals and do every day essential things. The day patrols were more disciplined. The jungle was so thick that there could be 20 terrorists 50 yards away and you wouldn't know. This is why ambushes were one of the main tactics out there. So, there was no talking, hand signals only. No smoking, (cigarette smoke and smell spreads through the jungle) and certainly no cooking, no fires. Cold rations and water. It is surprising how sound travels through the jungle and you made sure to tread lightly and avoid making any unnecessary noise.
Yeah, he mentioned a few years back about not coming into contact often with them. They would find camp fires still smouldering quite regularly, so they weren't far behind.

He was with my Nan before, and they survived his time away, glad they did as means I'm here ?

He spoke about his time there quite often when he had all his marbles. Some of the best days of his life were out there, drinking with his fellow soldiers. He was the life and soul of a party. It's a fascinating thought that you guys may have come across eachother during your time there, as he was the kind of guy who gets chatting to most folk he came across ?
 
Yeah, he mentioned a few years back about not coming into contact often with them. They would find camp fires still smouldering quite regularly, so they weren't far behind.

He was with my Nan before, and they survived his time away, glad they did as means I'm here ?

He spoke about his time there quite often when he had all his marbles. Some of the best days of his life were out there, drinking with his fellow soldiers. He was the life and soul of a party. It's a fascinating thought that you guys may have come across eachother during your time there, as he was the kind of guy who gets chatting to most folk he came across ?
The KOYLI's were out there when I was there. When did your grandad return to the UK? I went out in March 1955 so we could have been out there at the same time. When I did my Jungle patrols I was attached to the West Yorkshire Regiment. This was good for me as my parents lived in Leeds having moved from Liverpool in 1951. Lots of Leeds lads there.
Your Nan, and you both were lucky that no 'Dear John's' were ever written! lol
 

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