Current Affairs The next Tory (strong and stable) leader is Boris Johnson

[Frang]

I see Boris knows that EU law supercedes UK law, and as long as he doesn't ask for an extension on October 31st, we will be leaving the EU, with or without a deal and there is absolutely nothing that the parliament can do to stop this.



Parliament can not amend laws or create new ones as article 50 is covered by the EU laws not the UK own.

I've only just read up on this. So it makes everything they are currently going through null and void.

Wowzers.

And Boris knew this all along.

@The binman chronicles @edge

 

[edge]

I see Boris knows that EU law supercedes UK law, and as long as he doesn't ask for an extension on October 31st, we will be leaving the EU, with or without a deal and there is absolutely nothing that the parliament can do to stop this.



Parliament can not amend laws or create new ones as article 50 is covered by the EU laws not the UK own.

I've only just read up on this. So it makes everything they are currently going through null and void.

Wowzers.

And Boris knew this all along.

@The binman chronicles @edge

the default position is we leave on 31 Oct , if he dosnt ask it's out.
he could resign on that date .meaning he isn't pm on that day to ask for an extension as he would have no authority to do so,
we would have left before a government got together or election could be called.
I don't like Johnson at all and despite my lazy digs at him i think he is far from stupid.
I have a feeling there are yet more twists in this story.

 

[Frang]

the default position is we leave on 31 Oct , if he dosnt ask it out.
he could resign on that date .meaning he isn't pm on that day to ask for an extension as he would have no authority to do so,
we would have left before a government out together or election could be called.
I don't like Johnson at all and despite my lazy digs at him i think he is far from stupid.
I have a feeling there are yet more twists in this story.

This is only just getting started.

We are leaving, as Boris has confirmed hundreds of times, and he means it, unlike May.

There is NOTHING this government or parliament can do to stop it

It all rests on Boris shoulders

 

[davek]

Yeah I recently had a "discussion" with someone who said it couldn't happen here because we had a "free press".

He was a Daily Mail reader. He didn't appreciate me pointing out the irony.

On the first day after the proroguing of parliament I think it's worth contemplating another lesson from history that came up in last night's 2nd episode of 'Rise of the Nazis':

Shortly after Hitler came to power in 1933 he passed The Enabling Act: an act of law that suspended the democratic process (effectively shutting down their parliament The Reichstag) allowing Hitler to govern without consent from the elected representatives of the country.

You better believe we have just entered dangerous territory. But it's ok, because The Daily Mail says it's Boris for the People versus Parliament...and the Daily Mail, as we all know, never backs Nazism.

 

[hallamblue]

I said to my son a few days ago, all he needs to do is burn down parliament and plant the matches on Corbyn and he'll be fully there with his Hitler reenactment.

 

[davek]

I said to my son a few days ago, all he needs to do is burn down parliament and plant the matches on Corbyn and he'll be fully there with his Hitler reenactment.

I wouldn't put it past him.

Johnson is the most sinister figure to come into front line British politics since the war.

 

[Socrates]

I wouldn't put it past him.

Johnson is the most sinister figure to come into front line British politics since the war.

Whilst telling the public that the enemy is a mild-mannered peace activist.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Hitler should have hosted a comedy panel show and he'd have got away with annexing the Sudetenland.

 

[tsubaki]

I wouldn't put it past him.

Johnson is the most sinister figure to come into front line British politics since the war.

Absolutely. Enoch Powell was - in every single facet of his existence - a far better human being than Johnson is.

 

[davek]

Absolutely. Enoch Powell was - in every single facet of his existence - a far better human being than Johnson is.

Powell was the classicist scholar Johnson pretends to be. Double First I believe. Realised there's limits to where the "free market" could or should be allowed to enter too.

Still, he was an imperialist and racist scumbag...so not too far away from Johnson at the end of the day.

 

[summerisle]

Laughable, but at the same time disturbing.

UK government to target “far left” in revised Counter Extremism Strategy

Amid the most acute crisis of capitalist rule since the 1930s, the report is preparation for state repression against the working class and its revolutionary vanguard.

www.wsws.org

 

[Blues Harp]

Hitler should have hosted a comedy panel show and he'd have got away with annexing the Sudetenland.

as far as Brexit goes he should have annexed Sunderland....only joking...quite like the Mackems...

 

[summerisle]

Because he's got such a good track record of building bridges.

 

[Socrates]

Laughable, but at the same time disturbing.

UK government to target “far left” in revised Counter Extremism Strategy

Amid the most acute crisis of capitalist rule since the 1930s, the report is preparation for state repression against the working class and its revolutionary vanguard.

www.wsws.org

First they came for the communists and socialists and I remained silent...

We know the rest.

 

[The binman chronicles]

I see Boris knows that EU law supercedes UK law, and as long as he doesn't ask for an extension on October 31st, we will be leaving the EU, with or without a deal and there is absolutely nothing that the parliament can do to stop this.



Parliament can not amend laws or create new ones as article 50 is covered by the EU laws not the UK own.

I've only just read up on this. So it makes everything they are currently going through null and void.

Wowzers.

And Boris knew this all along.

@The binman chronicles @edge

It is quite obvious that the government are trying to push and pull the opposition out of position like on a tennis court to then be able to hit a winner. I don't believe for one second that they didn't know that proroguing parliament was going to create an uproar and that calling for an early election would fail. So why do it? Probably just to hammer home the point that BoJo is the man of the people (well at least 17.4 million of them) and to try and keep a lid on the brexit party to stop their share of the vote being diminished.

The sneaky part of this is that I honestly believe that the aim is not to carry out the threat of leaving, because as soon as that happens the economy would take a hit and without a majority in the commons an election would be inevitable. All that means if they have come out with a no deal Brexit the Tories would be toast.

So with massive bluffing and bluster the Tories will try to pin the eventual delay on the opposition parties, stating on record they offered a GE blah blah and only the threat of the law stopped BJ. This will garner sone sympathy and try to drum up the leave support to then have an election without the negative backdrop of a no deal Brexit giving voters a new understanding of what is and will be involved.