I do wonder how much of what the politicians do makes any difference tbh, and whether the civil servants just roll their eyes and get on with actually doing things in as sensible a way as the fools above them allow.
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tsubaki
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I've always thought that was an argument that centrists put about to try and escape criticism - I mean, as an argument that is only true if "boring competence" is on offer, which has rarely been the case at central government level in the UK for thirty years plus.
Most people want good and effective government, but our system (especially here but in the US as well) offers options that are not going to offer it, because they are fully part of a failing political system and do not promote candidates who would have the capability or experience to deliver the necessary change (they do occasionally promote candidates who know it has to change, but they rarely get anywhere).
So the choice ends up between those who will deliver failure, or those who will really wind up those who deliver failure whilst delivering even more failure themselves. Amazingly the people who deliver failure actively want that choice because they think it makes the sane people have to vote for them as opposed to Trump / Le Pen / Meloni etc.
I think you’re an absolute scumbag if you vote Tory and you have to accept that the current state of the country is your fault. Anyone who argues otherwise deserves the bad karma that will inevitably catch up with you, for voting for these ghouls.
To be fair though, you backed Corbyn, who has absolutely zero experience running anything at all, despite having been in politics all of his life. He's a different flavour of Farage.
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tsubaki
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Not really - I mean, despite the civil wars Labour was run better whilst he was leader (in terms of increasing vote share, increasing membership and improving finances).
I don't think he would have been a good PM, mind. He was too passive as Labour leader and refused to do anything from the top even against blatant deviants like Danzcuk, plus he never put the effort in to understand working class people who vote Tory. If between 2017 and 2019 he'd put that effort in, to do things like visit the military and talk to the actual personnel, to understand the abuses that were (and are) happening then he'd have done a lot better.
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Possibly, though another suggestion is that she is another one of his kids.
Spot on, they must accept some responsibility for the absolute state of our nation. No whataboutry, this is 13 years of greed and corruption this is the fault of the Conservative party.
Exactly, anytime something bad happens in their life they should sit there and think “this is because I voted Tory”.
That's the trouble they should, but look at Pete, even after 13 years, " it would be much worse under a Labour Government. Its their mantra.
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that is not how the minds of people who are the victims of an ongoing scam work, sadly
if something that was promised isn't happening, the victim thinks and is told they need to do more for the scammer to make it happen
I hope so, as I deffo would.
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I'm not angry, you dope!
I'm laughing at you and your continual Tory postings on here. You are making an absolute IDIOT of yourself with your postings, particularly in this thread on the forum.
Put your brain in gear and stop posting utter rubbish. But then on second thoughts, you are not capable of such an action.
Give up and sod off, pete...
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