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She sounds genuinely demented.
summerisle
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And people are actually voting for this tit.
orchard
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Me love socialism long-time, but I won't vote for a crazy commie, Nige is all there is...
peteblue
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Farage and the Brexit Party are going to wipe the floor with both Labour and Conservatives. The party has only existed for a couple of weeks and is going to destroy the current governing party. But of course May won’t listen, she is incapable of doing so, all she can think of is her deal. She and her cabinet have thrown away Brexit, undermined faith in the party and turned millions of voters against them. The tories, who used to be quite ruthless about these things, have turned into a wishy washy liberal elite concerned more about themselves than the country. Labour of course continue to offer everything to everybody to curry favour.......shambles really......
goodisonopheliac
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Tories? Liberal? Well, maybe compared to Farage, I guess, but liberal? With people like Jacob Rees-Mogg in the party?
NilSatisOptimum
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summerisle
The rain, it raineth every day
Who's funded by God knows who.
Kev The Rat
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These recent polls do make you wonder what the actual outcome of a 2nd ref would be. We’ve been constantly told that remain would win easily but an angered and motivated leave vote (which it would be 2nd time round) might carry more punch than a remain vote.
Pete, you're voting for someone with no manifesto, no policies, and who actively gets angry when even asked what his policies are. He just wants you to trust him, yet also gets angry when all of the many examples of his past statements are presented to him that either contradict his current position or reveal his general awfulness as a human being. THAT is the person you're willing to chuck your lifetime of Tory voting on the bonfire for, and you wonder why Brexiters are labeled as racists?
Oh, and in case @abelard wishes to wade in with "you're just like that with Brexit is Bollocks man", I don't plan on voting for either the Lib Dems or CHUK as neither are any better. It's possible to be appalled by the lurch to the extremes across Britain without by default throwing your weight behind whatever motley crew happen to stake out the centre ground.
Said the same weeks ago what is there manifesto?
I am a leaver but just vote because his party is called Brexit ?
Then again the Tories havent botherd to put one out for the Euro's either.
A rod has been created as the public have clearly shown a preference for politicians who are as ambiguous as possible so that they can project whatever values they have onto them. We see this with Brexit, with so many divergent types of Brexit wanted by leave voters, and all of whom are convinced that their form of Brexit is the one that whichever politician champions Brexit is really angling for. We see it with Labour whose official policy over the past few years seems to be to be as ambiguous as possible on the key issue of the day, and of course whatever political entities angling for the Remain vote being similarly non-committal.
It's an issue that will take some time to put back in the bottle (if ever), as we're in a social media world where schmucks like you and I on here think we know as much, and that our views are equivalent to people who really do know this stuff. It's become a breeding ground for division and misinformation that has undermined democracy as the very nature of these platforms seeks to divide people into partisan buckets to better sell advertising to, and these buckets are fed content they want from people they approve of. Just as the Arab Spring showed the power of this unifying force to change things, it's now that we see the flip side of this ability to 'target' and partition people.
NilSatisOptimum
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Much will depend on the success of LibDems, Greens and Change UK. Some of these are also not standing against each, an election coalition against Brexit Conservative and Labour. So unfair to suggest it's going to be all Farage at this point. Farage may do well, Indeed, if the remain party's do well that will blunt, even shut Farage up, which I won't mind at all, whatever the cost.
As above, this one election is really all about Brexit, a general manifesto won't matter for many, I suspect Labour and Conservative will take note of the direction, in the aftermath.
I tend to stay out of it these days Bruce , its a mess which ever way you view it .
Mays deal is a joke i would sooner stay in.
God knows what the two main parties repsent .
Libs and greens are riding the second vote train, nothing really agaist the greens but the libs are just using it to gain traction after there performane while hand in glove with the Tories.
No real decent outcome i can see and no chance of it calming down in the near future.
As I've said elsewhere though, if you look at the root cause of things, you may get a very different picture than the one we have.
I want to leave the EU. Why?
I think we have too many migrants. Why?
They undercut local wages/put pressure on local services/dilute British culture. Why?
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The Japanese advocate 5 of those steps to truly understand things, and I'm not sure we're anywhere near that in terms of understanding the leave vote (from any of the parties), yet we still seem determined that Brexit is the answer without really understanding the problem. As a natural remainer, yes, it saddens me that none of the parties advocating for remain have really done that.
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