The Long Dark - Thirty Years of Hurt

Accepting mediocrity, it started in 1988 when we signed Tony Cottee, We won the league in 1987 were banned from Europe and had to sign players like Cottee who were nowhere near the standard we should have been getting in. That signing was the start of our decent and we've still not come back,
 
Accepting mediocrity, it started in 1988 when we signed Tony Cottee, We won the league in 1987 were banned from Europe and had to sign players like Cottee who were nowhere near the standard we should have been getting in. That signing was the start of our decent and we've still not come back,

I hate to bring them into it but it was poor recruitment around that time compared to them. We signed Cottee/Nevin/McCall/Neil Mcdonald. None of them were top drawer. Over the park in 87 they signed John Barnes Peter Beardsley and Ray Houghton. The fact a few years later we signed Beardsley and he stuck out like a sore thumb in terms of quality among every other blue shirt tells its own story.
 
Quit all your moaning, will ye?!

30+ years without a trophy? It's nothing.

If it mattered, we wouldn't have sought to rebuild under a new era, new owners, new stadium by returning to employ the man responsible for over a third of the 30+ years who hasn't ever won a domestic trophy (ok, charity shield with a team that just pissed the league).

Remember what NSNO stands for! It's latin for "be careful what you wish for".

Some of you are quick to forget we could have Benitez as manager, or Lampard who did even worse than him, or a points deduction that dictated relegation fight. Never happy eh?! No point deduction this season and people are still moaning.

Stability is what matters, more good weekends than bad and this will be our third season on the spin we finish closer to europe than relegation. You'll never sing that.

Embrace that and repeat after me.

"At least we're not in a relegation fight"

Enjoy Liverpool not winning a trophy this year, and us not being in a relegation fight. That's the best you can hope for.
 
Since Everton’s last cup win in 1995 - almost 31 years ago - they have managed one solitary cup final appearance (2009) - now almost 17 years ago.

During that period, there have been only six semifinal appearances (three FA Cup and three League Cup).

Clubs that have won a European or domestic trophy in those 31 years include Blackburn, Leicester, Portsmouth, Wigan, Middlesbrough, Birmingham, Swansea, Newcastle, and Crystal Palace. As of this evening, Nottingham Forest and Crystal Palace are both 45 minutes away from European finals.

We are one of only six clubs (soon to be five) who have been ever-present since the Premier League began, benefiting from the vast flow of money that came with it.

How on earth have we managed to be so unsuccessful, so unlucky, for so long? The current ownership desperately needs to put together a blueprint for how we break our duck, and finally end the longest trophy drought in our 148 year history.
Bill Kenwright says Hi
 
I can't think of anyone who's done more damage to our club in our entire history.
Yes agree but also feel that the actions of the Moores family following the involvement and subsequent passing of Sir John in 1993?. were a major contributor to our demise. The failure to protect his legacy meant we ended up with Agent Johnson and then Kenwright with his mates as Directors. I think this laid the foundations.
 
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Didn’t Johnson build the park end ?
I'm not sure that's quite comparable, is it? After Taylor, Old Trafford seated 44,000. They built their own new stand, which seated 25,000. Then, a few years later, they added tiers to two other stands, taking the capacity up to 65,000. A few years after that, they filled in the corners, taking it up to 75,000. He failed in his attempts to move to a new stadium, and the gap between us and the other members of the "Big 5" grew into a chasm.
 
Under Kenright, we were top half in 11 out of his 16 seasons. Under Moshiri, we were top half in 3 of his 9 seasons. What's more, under Kenright, we beat Moshiri's best season (7th) 6 times.

Heck, under Peter Johnson, we might have won the cup, but we "averaged" 14th in the league. So, before and after the Kenright era, we had a lot of expenditure with very worse results on the pitch than during the parsimonious times under Kenright.

Just a bit of perspective.

I'd call that a complete lack of perspective tbh. A highly revisionist account, that seems to omit all of the key details. I wonder why?

Kenwright was already on the board, he essentially bought out Johnson with the help of his friends (some already on the board, some new to it), as he had nothing like the personal wealth to acquire those shares. Then, mysteriously, even though football was awash with (TV) money for the first time in decades, Everton were still somehow completely skint..... posting negative net spends for over a decade, and still accumulating more and more debt in the process. Other clubs were updating or moving stadium, and still managing to spend more on players than Everton FC (and not all had rich sugar-daddies). Fortunately for EFC, Moyes was able build decent sides on an absolute shoestring, but we had to sell our wonderkid just to survive. In fact, he essentially had to sell to buy throughout his tenure.

The Board's job was to manage the financials, provide funding for the manager and to maintain and enhance the club's infrastructure to allow the club to compete. In that whole time our net spend was amongst the lowest in the Premier league, and we spent comfortably the least on our stadium of practically every club in England. So the board completely failed in both of its key roles and responsibilities throughout.

Repeatedly, AGMs were full of questions about mysterious "other operating costs," as Kenwright failed to explain where the money was going.

Stadium Debacle No.1: To great fanfare, Kenwright anounced the Kings Dock, with ring-fenced finances for the club's meagre contribution, to a project largely funded by outside enabling developments on one of the city's prime locations. When the club failed to produce their funds, one of the board members offers to cover the cost to get this important project over the line, but in the ensuing power struggle, the opportunity of a life-time is completely squandered...... just so Kenwright could maintain his personal position. Next thing we know, the Greggs are paid off and "new friends" are acquired in the shape of Earl and a shy silent partner who can't be named, but we're told is a "great friend" of Everton Football Club. Subsequent AGMs fail to yield answers about the collapsed project, and it is just swept under the carpet as if it never happened. The lost opportunity cost of this sad episode is absolutely staggering and condemned our club to decline.

More seasons pass. Still the club haemorrhages money, and Moyes continues to paper over the cracks, shopping in the bargain basement, often selling on his best discoveries to keep buying and fielding a good side.... largely achieving decent league positions despite the board, and certainly not because of it.

Stadium debacle No.2. Out of nowhere, the monster known as Destination Kirkby raised its ugly head. Prompted by who? Perhaps the shy silent partner wants payback by way of a massive out-of-town retail development (that he cannot possibly have without a major enabling "community-led" development) to add to his portfolio of business shame. We all know what happened next.... all the lies and bluster were slowly stripped away, and then fully exposed by the public inquiry, and the "shed in the shopping park" disappeared without trace.... as did the "friends" who replaced "friends" on the board.

More years passed, more AGMs failed to explain ever increasing "more operating" costs. EGMs even come and go as frustrated shareholders try to demand answers..... for the first time in the club's history AGMs are cancelled as Kenwright is increasingly unable to fob the fans off. We even had to sell off training grounds and other property assets just to stay afloat..... while Moyes soldiered on, on the meagre crumbs he generated himself..... until he'd had his fill. Despite the obvious constraints over a very long period, he left the club with a very strong side. The new manager was afforded the luxury of being able to add a very strong forward to that team, and the team prospered. Unfortunately, it didn't last long, and within a couple of seasons, the downward spiral was already gathering pace. The finances were terminal, and there was no Moyes to build with a zero budget. The new training ground had to be sold back to the council and rented.

When Moshiri came in, the first thing he had to do was completely refinance the club, paying off multiple debts/loans, followed by phased capitalisation of ongoing debts of a club that was no longer sustainable. The club had been part of the big 5 and the prime driver for the Premier League in the early 90s. Just over 20yrs later, we had become make-weights in the most dilapidated stadium in the country. Miles behind most of our contemporaries by every metric (except in terms of history and loyalty and resolve of its fanbase).

Kenwright was the ONLY common denominator throughout the club's decline. While the club's debts and the board's impotence/incompetence grew over those years, he somehow managed to acrue a shareholding with a value that appeared to be multiples of his own external personal wealth. All while unaccountable "other operating costs" and associations/dirty dealings with Philip Green and other unsavoury characters went largely unexplained for decades. Were Everton just the best pension fund ever for a carpet bagging board..... who got away with it on the strength of warm platitudes about the boy's pen and Uncle Cyril's cross bar?
 
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Just need to remove excuses.

Kenwright’s gone

There’s no PSR deductions waiting in the pipeline

There’s no sell to fund the club requirement anymore

We can’t blame the stadium anymore

We have owners who have money


Now it’s purely that the players and manager arent good enough. Two things that are a lot easier to fix than all of the above.

Everton have somehow stumbled through most of the hard work and now have success in their sights if they want to pursue it.

instead we have fans supporting keeping Keane, Gana, McNeil in the team, and celebrating bottom half stability. Pre- takeover absolutely, but now there’s no context to keep accepting this

Buy a pair of decent fullbacks and a top striker, bring in a better manager. They’re literally the only things we need to do and I’d be confident we’d qualify for Europe next season and have ago at the domestic cups.

That’s it, but Everton as always find whatever avenue is available to completely avoid success. So we’ll keep Moyes, we’ll keep Gana Keane McNeil, we’ll still put our OBrien and Mykolenko at fullback, and we’ll buy another striker who’s worse than Beto and end up with a load of articles from Moyes on how hard Beto works and how he’s earned his spot back. Out of both cups early, both derbies wasted, 8th/9th place again, another season wasted.
 
Just need to remove excuses.

Kenwright’s gone

There’s no PSR deductions waiting in the pipeline

There’s no sell to fund the club requirement anymore

We can’t blame the stadium anymore

We have owners who have money


Now it’s purely that the players and manager arent good enough. Two things that are a lot easier to fix than all of the above.

Everton have somehow stumbled through most of the hard work and now have success in their sights if they want to pursue it.

instead we have fans supporting keeping Keane, Gana, McNeil in the team, and celebrating bottom half stability. Pre- takeover absolutely, but now there’s no context to keep accepting this

Buy a pair of decent fullbacks and a top striker, bring in a better manager. They’re literally the only things we need to do and I’d be confident we’d qualify for Europe next season and have ago at the domestic cups.

That’s it, but Everton as always find whatever avenue is available to completely avoid success. So we’ll keep Moyes, we’ll keep Gana Keane McNeil, we’ll still put our OBrien and Mykolenko at fullback, and we’ll buy another striker who’s worse than Beto and end up with a load of articles from Moyes on how hard Beto works and how he’s earned his spot back. Out of both cups early, both derbies wasted, 8th/9th place again, another season wasted.

8th/ 9/ place again?

can you remind me of when that was?
 
8th/ 9/ place again?

can you remind me of when that was?

Well that’s where I think we end up this season realistically but could easily be bottom half given the fixtures we have left.

Unfortunately I’ve seen Moyes manage far better Everton teams than this one. We probably had the best fullback pair in the league, 3/4 of England’s defence, Belgian internationals, Arteta Cahill Pienaar Yakubu etc. but the patterns of performance are still the same, we find a way to finish outside the meaningful league positions, we go out the cups early, we don’t win big games or derbies.

We dropped 100 mill onto last season’s team and were pretty much playing to a similar level as last year’s team. We could give Moyes the best 11 in the league and I think he’d give you the exact same season (he kind of did at United).

I always said that changing manager was pointless before the takeover as the winder of field factors were so stacked against us that you’d need a silver bullet miracle worker to get us back into the elite. Now though we don’t need that, everything is different, we just need a bloke who can finish a handful of points better than Moyes and doesn’t poo himself in every big game and we’d more likely than not win something.
 
Well that’s where I think we end up this season realistically but could easily be bottom half given the fixtures we have left.

Unfortunately I’ve seen Moyes manage far better Everton teams than this one. We probably had the best fullback pair in the league, 3/4 of England’s defence, Belgian internationals, Arteta Cahill Pienaar Yakubu etc. but the patterns of performance are still the same, we find a way to finish outside the meaningful league positions, we go out the cups early, we don’t win big games or derbies.

We dropped 100 mill onto last season’s team and were pretty much playing to a similar level as last year’s team. We could give Moyes the best 11 in the league and I think he’d give you the exact same season (he kind of did at United).

I always said that changing manager was pointless before the takeover as the winder of field factors were so stacked against us that you’d need a silver bullet miracle worker to get us back into the elite. Now though we don’t need that, everything is different, we just need a bloke who can finish a handful of points better than Moyes and doesn’t poo himself in every big game and we’d more likely than not win something.

Tbf to Moyes, he often went whole seasons without a decent striker and still made us pretty much best of the rest over a decade. Man Utd was a poisoned chalice for several managers, not just him.

Also, our net spend over the last five years is still bottom of the league, even if you include that £100m, which is not very much compared to many club's annual spend in our League..... so I wouldn't really have expected him to have fully turned us around based on that after jyst one summer window tbh. I also think that we have been playing much better football, although it is still limited by those yet unresolved glaring gaps. But of course, that is all probably straying from the theme of the thread.
 
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It’s time again.
 

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