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Labour should have concentrated on 3 or 4 popular wins for its manifesto. By trying to do too much the usual tory voters will say it's not affordable and they won't even think about voting for them.

It's a nice vision for a utopian society but in reality it just means our kids and grandchildren will probably end up like the Greeks at somepoint.
 
Labour should have concentrated on 3 or 4 popular wins for its manifesto. By trying to do too much the usual tory voters will say it's not affordable and they won't even think about voting for them.

It's a nice vision for a utopian society but in reality it just means our kids and grandchildren will probably end up like the Greeks at somepoint.

It's tax borrow and spend. Not even sure how so much can be spent it her than by printing a ton of money through the BOE. Anyway it would wreck the country finances and our kids would pick up the tab.
 
Where's the trillion pounds of extra spending coming from?
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I've neve seen anything quite as amazing in politics as that Labour manifesto. Absolutely hilarious. Why not just promise everyone free unicorns, wizards, and elves whilst your at it?

- Repeal Trade Union Bill
- Remove Tuition fees
- Loosen immigration laws
- Nationalise everything that exists
- Millions of new homes
- 7% increase in corp tax
- Levies on successful businesses
- Trident weakness
- Potentially reverse Brexit

It is just amazing. I knew Corbyn was extreme, but I thought he'd temper it a bit for the election. lol
 
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I've neve seen anything quite as amazing in politics as that Labour manifesto. Absolutely hilarious. Why not just promise everyone free unicorns, wizards, and elves whilst your at it.

- Repeal Trade Union Bill
- Remove Tuition fees
- Loosen immigration laws
- Nationalise everything that exists
- Millions of new homes
- 7% increase in corp tax
- Levies on successful businesses
- Trident weakness
- Potentially reverse Brexit

It is just amazing. I knew Corbyn was extreme, but I thought he'd temper it a bit for the election. lol

If he said they will pay everyones mortgage off I may well have been tempted. Probably would have costed a lot less than what they are planning too. I wonder if I get in touch with Jez he will just tack it on to the end, that and Everton have to win the league every year. ;)

I hope the manifesto is laminated, then we can just call it the Argos catalogue...

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If he said they will pay everyones mortgage off I may well have been tempted. Probably would have costed a lot less than what they are planning too. I wonder if I get in touch with Jez he will just tack it on to the end, that and Everton have to win the league every year. ;)

I hope the manifesto is laminated, then we can just call it the Argos catalogue...

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I missed out a few other gems that are sure to be popular:

- more support for the gypsy/traveller community
- rent caps
- hikes to inheritance tax
- increase welfare spending
- borrow £250 billion for infrastructure

I think the stupidest of all is actually the Brexit policy. It just incentivises the EU to give us the worst deal possible. Great negotiating skills there...
 
26% corporation tax :oops:

Well thanks Jeremy that would work just great here in NI where we are competing with south and it's 12.5% rate for investment.

I absolutely hate that policy. It's 1970s all over. For a business with profits of say 1m (nothing major at all). Then they would pay 170k tax under current proposals of going down to 17%. Under these rules they'd pay 260k. That's 90k. Over a 50% rise in tax. And more importantly, that's 3 good wages down the drain. 3 people out of work. Why even set up in Britain when tax rate is less than half as much in Ireland? If that's the sort of government were being offered, then unashamedly I don't want it.
NI is only ever an afterthought for Westminster though Tim.

Over the years I thought Corbyn had a decent handle on events here and it's really disappointing to see the same man turn out totally unelectable.

Similarly his continued refusal to allow candidates to stand here under the Labour banner is equally disappointing although to be fair their electoral chances would be slim.
 
On welfare, Labour says it would scrap benefit sanctions and the so-called "bedroom tax" and restore housing benefit for people aged under 21.

It would make me so proud to live in a country where a 16 year old could get knocked up, be given a house and get paid an unlimited amount all without contributing.

Meanwhile the company down the road that generates jobs and actually contributes to society would be punished. How dare they try to make money.
 
I've neve seen anything quite as amazing in politics as that Labour manifesto. Absolutely hilarious. Why not just promise everyone free unicorns, wizards, and elves whilst your at it?

- Repeal Trade Union Bill
- Remove Tuition fees
- Loosen immigration laws
- Nationalise everything that exists
- Millions of new homes
- 7% increase in corp tax
- Levies on successful businesses
- Trident weakness
- Potentially reverse Brexit

It is just amazing. I knew Corbyn was extreme, but I thought he'd temper it a bit for the election. lol

Hmmm...Unicorns you say.....
 
Apologies for the late reply, was at work:



Not "hard-left", indeed may not even be Labour given the timeline is full of retweeted Lib Dem stuff (with admittedly one or two Corbyn retweets as well). Actually does live in the constituency, though.



Paul Unwin - not hard left, seems anti-Corbyn judging by the timeline full of "Corbyn GO" stuff and retweets of Dan Hodges
Robin Levett - politics aren't clear, but not hard left



One or two retweets of Momentum stuff, rather more tweets in support of Corbyn during the leadership campaign.



Lives in Aylesbury and appears to be a Lib Dem. Not hard-left, judging by the timeline.

There's 4 from my 30 seconds of searching. As if I can be arsed finding more. Labour folk were going mental at the time when she re-selected. And I know I guy in Clapham who campaigns for Labour who says lots of momentum activists are campaigning for the vauxhall libdem.

So from your quickly-found examples, all of which date from after she was re-selected (and after your original post, fwiw), only one of them comes from someone who has previously re-tweeted Momentum stuff, and there isn't anything to say he is part of Momentum or lives / is active in the constituency.

This therefore seems to boil down therefore to a "guy in Clapham who campaigns for Labour", which perhaps may explain things given that (a) Lambeth Labour is dominated by the Progress faction and (b) its them that have tried getting rid of Kate Hoey in the past, and may well be right now given that Mandelson is actively trying to unseat her.

Do you think its fair that a party within a party like Progress should be trying to take out a popular and hardworking MP like Hoey?
 
The only way in which current graduates are disadvantaged is because some absolute plank dropped the academic standard required to get into university in order to try to hit a target of 50% of the under 30s going into higher education. Back in the 70's and 80's, having a degree meant a lot more than it does now because far fewer people had them... far fewer people had them because far fewer people went to university in the first place, and that was because it was academically much harder to get in. Because far fewer people got in, the governments in that era were able to fund all undergraduates.

If you want to keep undergraduate numbers at their current rate, or increase them, you cannot remove tuition fees.

If you want to remove tuition fees then you need to introduce other measures to reduce the number roof people getting on to undergrad courses.

There is a limit to the truth in the statement that "a more educated society is a better society" and that limit is when you start finding people with undergraduate degrees working in positions that never required degrees back in the 80's.

I agree - though I would point you to the people who actually did that, and why they did it (basically to reduce the NEETS / unemployment figures).
 
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