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[ashwuk76]

Ever since you started posting in here you've done nothing but. Your 'I'm a Labour man and I hate all tories, I'm concerned about people and you're not' tirades are of course abusive, because it insults people about whom you have no knowledge. Even the thread you started, insulting Everton fans who may vote conservative was designed to be insulting. Mind you, you quickly changed your tune when Danny pulled you up and you went into public grovelling mode. Anyway, I've liked some of you multis Chico, but this is the worst.......im off to the pub.....

You really don't listen do You? I am not a multi of @chicoazul ask Danny if you don't believe me.
What's the matter don't like being told the Tories are evil? That's a shame because they are and I won't apologise for saying it.

As for Everton fans voting Tory as I've said before how do people square that circle? No one has really given a good answer as yet. You may not like to hear it but the Tories do want to destroy Merseyside if they could, and they have tried hard too. The fact you don't want to acknowledge that isn't my problem.

So for that last time stop trying to say I'm not my own person.

 

[dandydan]

You really don't listen do You? I am not a multi of @chicoazul ask Danny if you don't believe me.
What's the matter don't like being told the Tories are evil? That's a shame because they are and I won't apologise for saying it.

As for Everton fans voting Tory as I've said before how do people square that circle? No one has really given a good answer as yet. You may not like to hear it but the Tories do want to destroy Merseyside if they could, and they have tried hard too. The fact you don't want to acknowledge that isn't my problem.

So for that last time stop trying to say I'm not my own person.

 

[ashwuk76]

Don't you love multis like @bluecol who only dislike any anti Tory posts and don't contribute? Quite funny really.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Don't you love multis like @bluecol who only dislike any anti Tory posts and don't contribute? Quite funny really.

He's been a member since 2008 and, according to his profile at https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/members/bluecol.967/, has posted a few times on political matters. If getting "dislikes" on a political thread bothers you that much, then it says just as much about you, as him bothering to "dislike" your posts does about him.

 

[ashwuk76]

He's been a member since 2008 and, according to his profile at https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/members/bluecol.967/, has posted a few times on political matters. If getting "dislikes" on a political thread bothers you that much, then it says just as much about you, as him bothering to "dislike" your posts does about him.

Doesn't bother me mate I find it rather amusing.

 

[Woolly Blue]

Doesn't bother me mate I find it rather amusing.

 

[ashwuk76]

I've said twice I find it funny and amusing not sure I can say more

 

[ToffeeTim]

Swerve it wannabe mod.

@roydo ill leave it mate, in fact if you want, ban me from this forum full of [Poor language removed] tories, it makes me feel sick that these people associate themselves with this great club, a club that prides itself on its Everton in the community arm, when they support cuts to the disabled, the elderly and the vulnerable.

They support a party that is systematically dismantling this great city yet choose to associate themselves with OUR football club, a club for scousers, a club for social democrats, a club that cares about those less fortunate, for whatever reason.

Still, they think they support our great club whilst putting their 'x' in the box next to the name of a rotten [Poor language removed] who is furthering themselves, who supports the bullying and degrading of the working class, who supports managed decline, who supports racism, who supports victims of rape being permanently identified by their tax code, who supports cuts to welfare for the most vulnerable people in our society. IM ALRIGHT JACK

And I tell you something else, if you Tory [Poor language removed] think you've got a claim to MY club and MY great city, you can [Poor language removed] off.

You are not welcome here (in L4, it seems you are welcome on this forum), and if this is my last post on GOT I've had a nice time but you horrible, Tory [Poor language removed] can all [Poor language removed] off, and I hope you reap what you sow, and after they have destroyed my community, and my people, they come after you, and I hope you suffer in the way we have.

[Poor language removed] off.

Wowzers lol

 

[tsubaki]

You really don't listen do You? I am not a multi of @chicoazul ask Danny if you don't believe me.
What's the matter don't like being told the Tories are evil? That's a shame because they are and I won't apologise for saying it.

As for Everton fans voting Tory as I've said before how do people square that circle? No one has really given a good answer as yet. You may not like to hear it but the Tories do want to destroy Merseyside if they could, and they have tried hard too. The fact you don't want to acknowledge that isn't my problem.

So for that last time stop trying to say I'm not my own person.

The Tories aren't evil, but they are spectacularly successful at winning elections - and they have had to be, given that the record of a party that celebrated the union and the Empire is so god-awful.

When Peel founded the modern Tory Party with the Tamworth Manifesto in the 1830s, Britain was the most powerful and wealthiest country on Earth. After 170 years of mostly Tory rule since, the empire is gone, Ireland is mostly gone and Scotland is about to follow. A party that boasts of its fiscal competence has gotten us more into debt than we have ever been, or at least have been without fighting a war that it was official Tory policy to avoid fighting up until eight months after the last possible moment. A party that loudly proclaims that only it can be trusted with the long-term future of the British people, even though it took the one huge economic opportunity of the last fifty years and pissed it largely up the wall.

 

[bluecol]

Born and brought up in Liverpool, had a great education there but just had to get away when the militant trade unions were destroying the city in the 70's and 80's. Decamped to London and it was a different world; managed to survive the IRA bombing campaign and I was happy to enjoy living in the greatest city on the planet.

Now I'm back up North, living in a marginal constituency but I would bet everything I own that Seema Kennedy, our MP, half Iranian, half British just like Moshiri, will still be our MP after 8 June.

 

[The Cowboy]

You really don't listen do You? I am not a multi of @chicoazul ask Danny if you don't believe me.
What's the matter don't like being told the Tories are evil? That's a shame because they are and I won't apologise for saying it.

As for Everton fans voting Tory as I've said before how do people square that circle? No one has really given a good answer as yet. You may not like to hear it but the Tories do want to destroy Merseyside if they could, and they have tried hard too. The fact you don't want to acknowledge that isn't my problem.

So for that last time stop trying to say I'm not my own person.

There's no requirement for a fan of a football club to have any link or affinity to the town/city in which that club is located. There are myriad reasons for supporting a club. And therefore is perfectly possible, and acceptable, for an Everton fan to be a Tory voter.

 

[ToffeeTim]

There is no labour party candidate in my constituency. Do I have to find a new team? lol

 

[Woolly Blue]

I've said twice I find it funny and amusing not sure I can say more

No worries mate, I just find it amusing that you bothered to post it on here, rather than contacting the bloke via PM or posting on his profile ( profile posts are the best part of this place btw ), so I reckon you're a tiny bit aggrieved about the "dislikes".

Just to show I'm fully balanced with chips on both shoulders, I laughed about @orly getting arsy about @oldblue disliking political posts and, though I can't remember who @peteblue was getting p'd off with, I think I laughed about him get arsy with some Left'ish bod disliking posts.

Like many on the political forums ( both left and right ), you seem to want to vent and enjoy having the majority of people pat you on the back and agree with you, while enjoying arguing for the sake of it with those of diametrically opposite positions, which is basically what happens in the House of Commons and ends up with a "debate" which, to be honest, is more theatre than debate.

Although our politicals views are probably pretty much aligned, our way of turning those political views into something tangible are likely poles apart, which is a shame, but is something I'm seeing more and more in the last seven years.

It is possible that I've turned into an old fart though.

As an aside, I repeat my original point. The bloke you put down as a multi has been here since 2008. I may not, in fact almost certainly don't agree with his politics, but, if he created a multi in 2008 on the off chance of being able to neg posters in, what was then a non-existent political forum on GOT, then he's a far better man than either you or me. Perhaps you should do some basic checks before shooting from the hip about someone who's been here six years longer than you have ?

JSL

 

[ashwuk76]

No worries mate, I just find it amusing that you bothered to post it on here, rather than contacting the bloke via PM or posting on his profile ( profile posts are the best part of this place btw ), so I reckon you're a tiny bit aggrieved about the "dislikes".

Just to show I'm fully balanced with chips on both shoulders, I laughed about @orly getting arsy about @oldblue disliking political posts and, though I can't remember who @peteblue was getting p'd off with, I think I laughed about him get arsy with some Left'ish bod disliking posts.

Like many on the political forums ( both left and right ), you seem to want to vent and enjoy having the majority of people pat you on the back and agree with you, while enjoying arguing for the sake of it with those of diametrically opposite positions, which is basically what happens in the House of Commons and ends up with a "debate" which, to be honest, is more theatre than debate.

Although our politicals views are probably pretty much aligned, our way of turning those political views into something tangible are likely poles apart, which is a shame, but is something I'm seeing more and more in the last seven years.

It is possible that I've turned into an old fart though.

As an aside, I repeat my original point. The bloke you put down as a multi has been here since 2008. I may not, in fact almost certainly don't agree with his politics, but, if he created a multi in 2008 on the off chance of being able to neg posters in, what was then a non-existent political forum on GOT, then he's a far better man than either you or me. Perhaps you should do some basic checks before shooting from the hip about someone who's been here six years longer than you have ?

JSL

At least we could find something amusing after the result!

Then I apologise to @bluecol for calling him a multi.

 

[ashwuk76]

There's no requirement for a fan of a football club to have any link or affinity to the town/city in which that club is located. There are myriad reasons for supporting a club. And therefore is perfectly possible, and acceptable, for an Everton fan to be a Tory voter.

Agreed with everything you said up to this point. Have to totally disagree I don't think is it acceptable for a Tory voter to support Everton .