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[Azza]

How long until Burnham is leader?

 

[Tramps_mate]

All parties probably do this but I agree that its an issue. Even quite a few of the Merseyside seats have out of town MPs brought in.

A lot of these towns have voted for Labour for decades with very little improvement to their lives. The media campaign to view labour as a party of London centric middle class seems to have worked. A lot of these people seem to think brexit will still improve their lives which will still have an impact on votes.

It's going to be a hard road back for Labour, I just can't see how they coud manage to win a majority any time soon.

Our Southport rat-faced tithead Tory MP lives in Preston...

I hate his face.

 

[Tramps_mate]

How long until Burnham is leader?

I think this is the way forward for now. Has he not got to be an MP again though first?

 

[davek]

All parties probably do this but I agree that its an issue. Even quite a few of the Merseyside seats have out of town MPs brought in.

A lot of these towns have voted for Labour for decades with very little improvement to their lives. The media campaign to view labour as a party of London centric middle class seems to have worked. A lot of these people seem to think brexit will still improve their lives which will still have an impact on votes.

It's going to be a hard road back for Labour, I just can't see how they coud manage to win a majority any time soon.

When the good people of Wavertree complained about their arrogant, London-living, clueless get parachuted in to run their seat they got called "anti-semite".

 

[davek]

I think this is the way forward for now. Has he not got to be an MP again though first?

He's another creature of big business.

 

[kenada_blue]

How long until Burnham is leader?

He's leathered the Greater Manchester vote hasn't he?

 

[kenada_blue]

He's another creature of big business.

Can't ignore and not get cosy with it though. It's why Corbyn was such a failure.

 

[davek]

Can't ignore and not get cosy with it though. It's why Corbyn was such a failure.

...did you read any of John McDonnell's overtures to business?

 

[Xizor]

Stop blaming the media for everything. People can make an opinion on somebody on their own.

Whether u like it or not Boris is very likeable and comes across as a normal bloke.

"Comes across" how? Do you have a personal experience of him or is "your own" opinion shaped by one or more mediums in which his persona is presented to you... or 'media' to use the correct term?

No wonder the country is going down the political pan when the voters have this level of inability to carry out critical thinking.

 

[edge]

I’m past the stage of calling anyone thick for voting tories, they align themselves with working class values more than labour these days which is incredibly disturbing.

However, your view on Boris Johnson is completely wrong and a massive aspect of the vote base have been duped.

Then again, I don’t think they even care if he’s not how he’s portrayed and comes from privilege.

Despite Johnson, a Torie party split on brexit, lame duck leaders, May, Major and tory slease, and the effects of austerity , Labour couldnt make a dent in them and infact Has lost ground, and has suffered GE humiliation.
Instead of learning from it some want to blame the press, Gammon's anybody infact who doesn't agree slavishly to there metropolitan, uni educated, neo liberalism view of the world for the failure of this one great party, when it's clear it's there message that has no real appeal to anyone outside of their shrinking core support.
As normal they will cry arse about it ,march about blame , the older generation so called racists ect and drag the party further into irrelevance.
The party has lost it's way , nobody is buying into what they are selling and havnt done for at least a decade , it plays out ok on the web, but in the real world were it counts it a abject failure in the ballot box.

 

[Azza]

I think this is the way forward for now. Has he not got to be an MP again though first?

I'm don't think so. Or at least there is no mention in the Labour constitution that the leader has to be an MP. Lib Dems you have to be an MP, Green Party says the leader(s) don't need to be an MP.

He's leathered the Greater Manchester vote hasn't he?

Looking like it.

 

[kenada_blue]

...did you read any of John McDonnell's overtures to business?

Some of his manifesto. Pure idealism that had business laughing.

 

[davek]

Time for that party to fold and its massive membership and left trade unions to create afresh.

The free market gangsters infiltrated the party in the late-80s and 90s and their job - to bury the LP - is almost complete.

 

[ToffeeTim]

I'm don't think so. Or at least there is no mention in the Labour constitution that the leader has to be an MP. Lib Dems you have to be an MP, Green Party says the leader(s) don't need to be an MP.



Looking like it.

Practically though, surely the leader of the opposition has to be in the commons? I know Sturgeon isn't in Westminster, but they are a regional party if you take the UK as a whole, and it makes more sense for the SNP leader to be leading in Edinburgh.

I can't see how Labour could be led by someone not an MP. What happens if you win the election. Who becomes the PM?

 

[davek]

Some of his manifesto. Pure idealism that had business laughing.

And Johnson's pronouncement "eff" business was astute wooing of that class?

Businesses aren't the issue. The working class are, and the LP haven't cut through to it since Corbyn's 2017 election performance.