coollino
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The people who believe there was a 'cult of Corbyn' were actually in a cult themselves
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The people who believe there was a 'cult of Corbyn' were actually in a cult themselves
orchard
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Does the 20pc swing from ukip (or whatever) straight to Con's suggest that Starmer's purge and patriot policy isn't working?
davek
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I hope Starmer's Labour get utterly battered. The fact it will be spun as the aftershock of Corbynism will fool no one.
davek
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A cabal of pro-zionist, pro-market wreckers.
Large majority of UKIP/Reform/Brexit voters have always been those Tory voters who are the worst of the worst, imo, but there are plenty of 'traditional' Labour voters who followed them because of Brexit and are now doing the 'Well Labour betrayed us on Brexit so I will follow the Tories'
It stinks and god knows when, or if, we'll recover
However, Starmer has sunk like a stone in the north at a time where Labour should be on their hands and knees to get voters back that they've lost. He won't visit Liverpool, which says it all.
BigMick
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Fair enough then David. We'll see whether you are as spot on as you occasionally are!
As for Corbyn, he's yesterday's man and I think we can agree that it's the present and future that matters. Besides, it's time to let him enjoy his dotage after all the fuming and spluttering, court cases and purges. He certainly looks happy enough here, back doing what he does best: getting cheap applause from a doting crowd by telling them exactly what they want to hear.
I particularly love the way he shoehorns in his latest slogan - Peace and Justice - just like in the good old days when they somehow managed to cram in his old catchphrase - For the Many, Not the Few - into all his speeches, no matter what he was talking about. A classy touch that. And isn't it great to see the return of the long lost Lenin cap? Laura must have found it crammed in the back of his wardrobe.
davek
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The fact that you believe - in the middle of a deadly virus brought about by his political opponents - that attacking Corbyn is useful is quite appalling judgement.
Yes, how dare he campaign for peace and justice. Why cant he be corrupt (or complicit with the corrupt) like others?
Spadge Vernacular
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Corbyn should just start his own party and then we can all go and join him there.
Dom1878
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Regularly think this. There's always a few people who break off and fail with their own party, but a full Socialist Party headed by Corbyn would shatter Labour.
I absolutely loved Corbyn. I didn't think he was a good leader in the Commons, but he was definitely a leader the country needed. I suppose he knows how much damage would be done to the Labour party if he defected...
Dom1878
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Just to give my 2 pence.
Starmer started off well, few good results in the Commons etc, but then he attacked the left in order to gain the centric votes, and his leadership is that ineffective that the center votes are heading even more to the right. He made a massive mistake by not standing by an ever growing Left, and whilst I want Boris Johnson out, I'm more than happy to see Starmer fail.
Only way Labour will win back votes will be to back a Northern PM & back electoral reform, in my opinion. Andy Burnham would be the perfect candidate...
Starmer started off well, few good results in the Commons etc, but then he attacked the left in order to gain the centric votes, and his leadership is that ineffective that the center votes are heading even more to the right. He made a massive mistake by not standing by an ever growing Left, and whilst I want Boris Johnson out, I'm more than happy to see Starmer fail.
Only way Labour will win back votes will be to back a Northern PM & back electoral reform, in my opinion. Andy Burnham would be the perfect candidate...
Spadge Vernacular
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He does enjoy a very passionate fan base and I am sure those that fall into that category would support such a move. As it stands the split in Labour looks like it might be set to hand the Tory's another win, despite multiple covid issues and failings.
You’d think some tories would question their support for the party if they’re milking up all the far-right racist votes.
Tories have, and always will, carry about winning regardless of how they do it
Alan Whittle
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Starmer has the same problem as Kinnock. Nothing much changes. The average man or woman in the street is more aspirational than revolutionary.
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