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[zzr45]

I thought Diane Abbott went to Cambridge?

Yes, but, that was different because it doesn’t fit this narrative.

 

[davek]

lol

Some of the soundest people I know went to Oxford. Some of the soundest people I know failed their GCSEs. It's meaningless

The people I knew/knew of who went there from my background were social climbing belters.

If anyone is obsessed with attending those places you know they're rich gets or Aunt Jemimas and Uncle Toms from the working class.

 

[davek]

I agree with you there. The license fee should certainly be abolished - let it stand on its on two feet without forcing hard up people to pay £150 for a bit of respite from the daily grind.

All the media should be vetted and only allowed a license to broadcast or print if they can operate in an objective non-partisan way. That's what would happen in any decent society...obvioulsy not happening in this one, which is indecent beyond words.

 

[davek]

I thought Diane Abbott went to Cambridge?

I dont care.

 

[Yu the Great]

All the media should be vetted and only allowed a license to broadcast or print if they can operate in an objective non-partisan way. That's what would happen in any decent society...obvioulsy not happening in this one, which is indecent beyond words.

You just have to look at the way that multiculturialism, feminism and the removal of the nation-state is pushed on us all by the MSM. Any divergence is to be critcised with its opponents lambasted as far-right extremists.

 

[bol-uk]

10,000 head teachers forced to march in protest at tory cuts.

This is not a case of hammer the poor. Many of the poorest have been taken out of taxation altogether. Your list of ‘crimes’, closing libraries,cutting the arts, schools,nurses, policing, made people homeless, made them prove they are ill/disabled, how has closing libraries or cutting the arts affected the poor, schools have not had a reduction in teachers, nor nurses in hospitals, how has that affected the poor. Make people homeless, the councils will house anyone that is homeless, made them prove they are disabled, of course because too many were just trying it on and abusing the system. These ‘crimes’ of yours are just the things that any grown up government should when faced with growing debt, rather than just promise to spend even more so that the next time it will be even worse.....

Just yesterday 10,000 head teachers marching in protest at Tory cuts.

 

[davek]

You just have to look at the way that multiculturialism, feminism and the removal of the nation-state is pushed on us all by the MSM. Any divergence is to be critcised with its opponents lambasted as far-right extremists.

They ARE far right extremists if they espouse nationalism and oppose those things.


The BBC doesn't push that line in any case. Beyond fascist political parties, a more white jingoistic organisation you'd be hard pressed to find.

 

[Yu the Great]

They ARE far right extremists if they espouse nationalism and oppose those things.


The BBC doesn't push that line in any case. Beyond fascist political parties, a more white jingoistic organisation you'd be hard pressed to find.

Not oppose. Just criticise.

Not that opposing those makes you a far right extremist and no rational person could think otherwise.

 

[orly]

The people I knew/knew of who went there from my background were social climbing belters.

If anyone is obsessed with attending those places you know they're rich gets or Aunt Jemimas and Uncle Toms from the working class.

Er, wow.

 

[orly]

I thought Diane Abbott went to Cambridge?

Yep.

I hope very much that David isn't describing her family as being Uncle Toms (as he has done above).

 

[davek]

Not oppose, criticise.

Presumably you've missed the last ten years of BBC output?

Why would anyone wish to criticise multi-culturalism? Usually a short hand term for white British values.

There is no distinct culture in this country: it was an ethnically diverse and multi-layered society almost a thousand years before the BBC were formed.

The BBC should be critiqued for one reason and one only: it's unwavering support of capitialism and all the forces that prop it up.

 

[davek]

Er, wow

Wow what?

They are terms (like Quisling or Vichy) that underline ANYONE throwing their hand in with their own oppressors. They have been shorn of their original meaning for a hundred years.

 

[orly]

Wow what?

They are terms (like Quisling or Vichy) that underline ANYONE throwing their hand in with their own oppressors. They have been shorn of their original meaning for a hundred years.

Nope.

If you're using "Uncle Toms" here, especially about Diane Abbott's family, you've gone way beyond what's acceptable.

 

[davek]

Nope.

If you're using "Uncle Toms" here, especially about Diane Abbott's family, you've gone way beyond what's acceptable.

I'm sorry, where have I used that term in relation to Dianne Abbot?

Apology accepted.

 

[orly]

I'm sorry, where have I used that term in relation to Dianne Abbot?

Apology accepted.

Nope, you're doubling down here and you know you are in the wrong.

No apology from me, just real disappointment