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[peteblue]

They're doing a lot of "bailing out" then. It's been a long time now with a Tory government and a hell of a lot of austerity.

We had 13 years of Labour overspending.....

 

[JimmyJeffers]

This is not a case of hammer the poor. Many of the poorest have been taken out of taxation altogether. Your list of ‘crimes’, closing libraries,cutting the arts, schools,nurses, policing, made people homeless, made them prove they are ill/disabled, how has closing libraries or cutting the arts affected the poor, schools have not had a reduction in teachers, nor nurses in hospitals, how has that affected the poor. Make people homeless, the councils will house anyone that is homeless, made them prove they are disabled, of course because too many were just trying it on and abusing the system. These ‘crimes’ of yours are just the things that any grown up government should when faced with growing debt, rather than just promise to spend even more so that the next time it will be even worse.....

Councils are under no obligation to house anyone homeless and in many cases they don’t. With regards to disability benefits, in my experience the ones that know how to play the system, carry on playing the system, and the most vulnerable are penalised.
You can back conservative ideology all you like, and agree that austerity was a necessity, but, I don’t think you have much of an argument if you state that the poorest members of our society have not been hit hardest by public funding cuts, and we’ve not even reached the worst of it yet.

 

[bol-uk]

This is not a case of hammer the poor. Many of the poorest have been taken out of taxation altogether. Your list of ‘crimes’, closing libraries,cutting the arts, schools,nurses, policing, made people homeless, made them prove they are ill/disabled, how has closing libraries or cutting the arts affected the poor, schools have not had a reduction in teachers, nor nurses in hospitals, how has that affected the poor. Make people homeless, the councils will house anyone that is homeless, made them prove they are disabled, of course because too many were just trying it on and abusing the system. These ‘crimes’ of yours are just the things that any grown up government should when faced with growing debt, rather than just promise to spend even more so that the next time it will be even worse.....

lol

 

[bol-uk]

This is not a case of hammer the poor. Many of the poorest have been taken out of taxation altogether. Your list of ‘crimes’, closing libraries,cutting the arts, schools,nurses, policing, made people homeless, made them prove they are ill/disabled, how has closing libraries or cutting the arts affected the poor, schools have not had a reduction in teachers, nor nurses in hospitals, how has that affected the poor. Make people homeless, the councils will house anyone that is homeless, made them prove they are disabled, of course because too many were just trying it on and abusing the system. These ‘crimes’ of yours are just the things that any grown up government should when faced with growing debt, rather than just promise to spend even more so that the next time it will be even worse.....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...families-worse-off-under-tories-a7938656.html
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...sterity-poor-disability-george-osborne-tories
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-fiscal-studies-research-brexit-a7705556.html
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...d-poverty-has-soared-400000-tories-came-power
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...on-osborne-legacy_uk_58e1f926e4b0c777f78874bd


Stop making things up!!!

 

[zzr45]

Let’s be honest, a lot of today’s problems can be traced back to one momentumal f up:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...sion-tax-raid-and-others-since-Seventies.html

 

[peteblue]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...families-worse-off-under-tories-a7938656.html
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...sterity-poor-disability-george-osborne-tories
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-fiscal-studies-research-brexit-a7705556.html
https://www.politicshome.com/news/u...d-poverty-has-soared-400000-tories-came-power
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...on-osborne-legacy_uk_58e1f926e4b0c777f78874bd


Stop making things up!!!

I don’t know why I try, but your very first article says because of austerity, rent rises and the possible impacts of Brexit, that by 2020 people will be worse off, taking no account of potential pay rises but including inflation. So just another projection of some made up stuff......

 

[peteblue]

Let’s be honest, a lot of today’s problems can be traced back to one momentumal f up:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...sion-tax-raid-and-others-since-Seventies.html

Indeed, and when you add in the effects of his 3G license scam, the effects are long lasting........

 

[peteblue]

lol

Please explain how cuts to libraries and the arts have affected the poor. You wrote this, so I assume you meant it......

 

[bol-uk]

Please explain how cuts to libraries and the arts have affected the poor. You wrote this, so I assume you meant it......

I was laughing at your deflection. Also, I have never seen a billionaire in a library! In all seriousness, if you really think libraries are not a valuable resource for the poor, those with disabilities,unemployed and the old then you genuinely are out of touch.

 

[Seathestars]

Derek Hatton lol

 

[Tubey]

This is not a case of hammer the poor. Many of the poorest have been taken out of taxation altogether. Your list of ‘crimes’, closing libraries,cutting the arts, schools,nurses, policing, made people homeless, made them prove they are ill/disabled, how has closing libraries or cutting the arts affected the poor, schools have not had a reduction in teachers, nor nurses in hospitals, how has that affected the poor. Make people homeless, the councils will house anyone that is homeless, made them prove they are disabled, of course because too many were just trying it on and abusing the system. These ‘crimes’ of yours are just the things that any grown up government should when faced with growing debt, rather than just promise to spend even more so that the next time it will be even worse.....

Ahhhh I'm delighted to learn that VAT has been abolished.

 

[magicjuan]

Indeed, so why not nationalise them as well.......

Having a state owned bank wouldn't be a bad thing, as opposed to the private cartels we have now. But they wouldn't let it happen, would they?

 

[magicjuan]

But our yearly deficit has been coming down and it’s no good any businessman acquiring a profitable asset and turning it into an unprofitable one, which is what nationalisation does.....

You seem to think everything has to make a profit, even the most intrinsic elements of the fabric of our society. Why?

 

[Joey66]

Yes, the front bench is far more posh than the Tories.

Phillip Hammond, Chancellor - educated at Oxford, went on to become then worked as a director for several companies before entering politics in 1997.

John McDonnell, Shadow Chancellor - did a couple A-levels at night school, before becoming a mature student at Brunel University - then ran a small children's home, before becoming a researcher for the NUM. Became an MP in 1997.

Also bankrupted the GLC so it was abolished- John McDonnell

 

[tsubaki]

Also bankrupted the GLC so it was abolished- John McDonnell

lol Joey your "former Labour" mask has slipped a bit there.