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[peteblue]

In what “way”, Peter?

Please ‘splain that silly comment.

Thank you.

Because it’s denying that something existed when it quite plainly did. If I were Jewish, and I’m not, then I think I would take offence in the same way that some holocaust deniers try to suggest either it didn’t happen or it was not as bad as reported. I’m not sure I can explain it any more simply than that.....

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

No, it's bang on the money and you'd know that if you had half a clue.

It'd have been better if you had instead, said.

Corbyn has ballsed this up big time. He allowed his own arrogance to trump strategic thinking by not accepting the findings, not keeping quiet for the good of the party and the bigger picture. That's the cut of him.

 

[peteblue]

Think its you...

And this is like the stupidity of Labour under Corbyn, never admitting being in the wrong......

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Starmer has ballsed this up big time. He allowed his own arrogance to trump strategic thinking on what suspending Corbyn meant in the bigger picture. That's the cut of him.

Not so sure about, ballsed up big time. It was a central message of his leadership campaign, weeding out antisemitism, along side Unity... So its no surprise, he took this line. Also, his background in the law just reaffirms the context of the man. As for Unity, the general consensus in all Labour will be to follow report and then some, thats very much nailed on.

 

[Blue 1]

In a way it is a milder form of Holocaust denial......

 

[Blues Harp]

And this is like the stupidity of Labour under Corbyn, never admitting being in the wrong......

Unbelievably ignorant comment..you never admit that Bozo and his crew have fessed up goodstyle...a tad hypocritical methinks

 

[Tramps_mate]

Because it’s denying that something existed when it quite plainly did. If I were Jewish, and I’m not, then I think I would take offence in the same way that some holocaust deniers try to suggest either it didn’t happen or it was not as bad as reported. I’m not sure I can explain it any more simply than that.....

He didn't deny it though. He said it's been blown out of proportion.

 

[peteblue]

Unbelievably ignorant comment..you never admit that Bozo and his crew have fessed up goodstyle...a tad hypocritical methinks

Again, this is the Labour thread, the clue is in the title.....

 

[peteblue]

He didn't deny it though. He said it's been blown out of proportion.

Starmer doesn’t seem to approve....

 

[Tramps_mate]

Starmer doesn’t seem to approve....

Because Starmer is a Zionist...

 

[peteblue]

Because Starmer is a Zionist...

Well he supports the existence of the state of Israel and he has a Jewish wife I believe, so he might be a tad influenced...

 

[Blues Harp]

Again, this is the Labour thread, the clue is in the title.....

Don’t patronise me, you know quite well the point I was making your assertion was wrong in the first place.

 

[davek]

Not so sure about, ballsed up big time. It was a central message of his leadership campaign, weeding out antisemitism, along side Unity... So its no surprise, he took this line. Also, his background in the law just reaffirms the context of the man. As for Unity, the general consensus in all Labour will be to follow report and then some, thats very much nailed on.

He's made an error in suspending Corbyn on the grounds he's suspended him on.

It's not sustainable. It'll likely be overturned, and then Starmer looks weak.

He's got an unearned reputation for having a sharp mind. For my money yesterday he saw the initial muted response to his inconclusive and evasive press conference when he spoke of the ECHR findings and he's jumped in with two feet on a statement from Corbyn to rescue the situation and make himself look strong by suspending Corbyn. But he couldn't even own that in the end.

It was a strategic mistake, and I see he's been in the media today saying he hopes there'll be no civil war and that there needn't be one...which looked a lot like rowing back to me.

Forensic my arse.

 

[davek]

Apparently stating that the scale of the problem has been exaggerated is an attack on Jews now though.

For Starmer it is...ironically not for the EHRC report he endorsed 5 minutes before, which allows Corbyn and anyone else the benefit of the doubt when questioning the extent of the problem.

Hes a bit thick for a clever man, Starmer.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

It'll likely be overturned, and then Starmer looks weak.

Most likely, however, how that is presented, will be entirely the point of this piece of theatre...