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[catcherintherye]

Unless there's a widespread commitment to forensically and fairly look at all organisations for online content that pertains to them and their actions by their members and supporters then any report on a single organisation is ridiculous and lacking in context.

The stark truth is that LP members and supporters are by and large much more enlightened than all or most other members of other organisations, and to target that party for an investigation is not only unfair but bizarre...bizarre if we didn't also appreciate the wider dimension to the debate: the neecessity to get rid of any leaders of an organisation not committed to neo-liberlaism.

The EHRC might be getting 'good' press, but it's terribly flawed in conception as well as it's conclusions.

I remember Martin Mguinnes saying something similar years ago when people wanted to out the link between Sinn Fein nd the PIRA. He rightly point out, he would do it but only if the British state, loyalist para's and the death squads that targetted often older family members of activists were looked into. It was all or nothing. Surprisingly as soon as that was suggested the calls went away,

My view of the LP has always been it's a broad representation of the working class. And there is racism, sexism, homophobia within the working class. There are also lots of people opposed to it. You are not going to eliminate any of those prejudices while we have the economic system we do and Labour remain a very central part of it, try as we might.

I've just seen the EHRC has ignored Muslim Tory grandees, the Muslim Council of Britain who provided a 300 pagedossier asking them to investigate Conservative Party Racism. I would love to know why they felt the Muslim community, who had seemingly produced overwhelming evidence were not only wrong, but so wrong it didn't even warrant even a cursory glance. Are these really the people who are trustworthy in judging who is, or who isn't racist?

 

[peteblue]

Corbyn should have put his hand up, admitted that elements of his party were AS and that perhaps he personally could have done more to stamp it out. But no, give Starmer the opportunity to throw him and his followers out of the party. Corbyn was and remains an idiot...Starmer remains a back sliding and back stabbing fully paid up member of the elite.......

 

[TheSecondComing]

Did anyone watch Question Time last night?

Marie Van Der Lyl appearance was disgusting am still angry about it now.

She was given a platform and she decided to ignore the actual purpose of the show and use it to spout anti Labour propaganda using her religion as an excuse.

She was asked about Trump and she said he’s got “good foreign policies”. This is after the fact it was brought up he’s left Palestine out of peace discussions she wouldn’t condemn it.

 

[neil999]

Corbyn should have put his hand up, admitted that elements of his party were AS and that perhaps he personally could have done more to stamp it out. But no, give Starmer the opportunity to throw him and his followers out of the party. Corbyn was and remains an idiot...Starmer remains a back sliding and back stabbing fully paid up member of the elite.......

The elite lol

 

[Blue 1]

Did anyone watch Question Time last night?

Marie Van Der Lyl appearance was disgusting am still angry about it now.

She was given a platform and she decided to ignore the actual purpose of the show and use it to spout anti Labour propaganda using her religion as an excuse.

She was asked about Trump and she said he’s got “good foreign policies”. This is after the fact it was brought up he’s left Palestine out of peace discussions she wouldn’t condemn it.

In her own words, the Board of British Deputies exists "to promote a sympathetic understanding of Israel". She is little more than a Likud mouthpiece yet seems to claim to speak for the entirety of British Jewry.

 

[dead_soft]

Corbyn should have put his hand up, admitted that elements of his party were AS and that perhaps he personally could have done more to stamp it out. But no, give Starmer the opportunity to throw him and his followers out of the party. Corbyn was and remains an idiot...Starmer remains a back sliding and back stabbing fully paid up member of the elite.......

You much prefer your elite to speak with posh voices and have come from a rich family rather than any working class people getting above their station, don't you? They don't make those boots taste so good for nothing

 

[summerisle]

Looking better.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Looking better.

No place in the Labour Party for Momentum / Corbyn - no suprise once they start to get booted Labours support goes up.

 

[tim cahill]

No place in the Labour Party for Momentum / Corbyn - no suprise once they start to get booted Labours support goes up.

This was based on before yesterday. It's the free school meals that has done that.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

This was based on before yesterday. It's the free school meals that has done that.

I would doubt that booting corbyn will make any positive difference either. He’s been keeping a low profile up until recent events.

 

[dannyboy]

What have they got to fear? They're ahead in the polls when everyone said Starmer would be 20 points ahead

They don't fear him, at all

Why would they fear someone who's just going to carry on with what they're doing anyway?

They were terrified of Corbyn, hence the relentless attacks. With Starmer, they'll have a few disappointed MPs if they lose but overall it'll be shrug the shoulders time. Their system is safe. Nothing will change.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Starmer has ballsed this up big time. He allowed his own arrogance to trump strategic thinking on what suspending Corbyn meant in the bigger picture. That's the cut of him.

This is either a wind-up or heroically naive

 

[Tramps_mate]

I can see there being a split in the labour party soon. They'll shoot themselves in the foot big style.

It was a total which hunt against Corbyn which the daily mail all but admits this morning!

The billionaires were terrified of Corbyn along with the Israelis and were determined to ruin him at all costs.

 

[davek]

Not really Dave, you asked for evidence of vitriol aimed towards Jews on this forum, but then carried on your post in a way that demonstrated it superbly and in such a way that you couldn’t use ‘cherry picking’ ‘context’ or any of the other usual bollocks.
Congratulations.

So there is no attacks on Jews on the forum?

That's all I needed to know. Thanks.

 

[davek]

This is either a wind-up or heroically naive

No, it's bang on the money and you'd know that if you had half a clue.