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mellowblue said:
Why are the "silent majority" silent? Are they dumb? Can they not speak? Are you one of them? (ha ha)
Can a "man on the street" join?
I think we should be told :cool:
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The UK is a centrist (sensible) country by and large.

The ones who shout the loudest are always the ones on the extreme ends of the political spectrum hence why folk like dead soft watches question time and thinks a few liberal post grads or a former eton headmaster represents the average joe.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
The UK is a centrist (sensible) country by and large.

The ones who shout the loudest are always the ones on the extreme ends of the political spectrum hence why folk like dead soft watches question time and thinks a few liberal post grads or a former eton headmaster represents the average joe.
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How the feck do you "know" this? You winge loud enough on this and other forums....you must be far left according to your theory. Unless of course you are far right. And no one even a tinge left watches QT... Mostly a centre right/right wing outlet.
 
davek said:
The entryists are the Blairites. They entered a socialist party in the 80s and colonised it like vampires.

The Corbyn experience indicates to us that it isn't enough to get a socilaist leader when the bureacracy of the party is still infested by right wing neo-liberals seeking the return of Blairism.

It's best now that the hundreds of thousands attracted to the membership by Corbyn leave that party and form a new party committed to social and economic democracy. The left unions could then follow them out of the LP and align with them.

Leave Starmer and his Blairite supporters to stew in their own piss.
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Do you feel that these promises are neo-liberal?

https://www.grandoldteam.com/forum/threads/the-labour-party.104565/page-719#post-7967150
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
The UK is a centrist (sensible) country by and large.

The ones who shout the loudest are always the ones on the extreme ends of the political spectrum hence why folk like dead soft watches question time and thinks a few liberal post grads or a former eton headmaster represents the average joe.
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I'm quite fond of how much you want to talk about me but I promise you former Eton headmasters are unlikely to be on the left of the political spectrum. Or, to be fair, most QT pundits at all.
 
dead_soft said:
I'm quite fond of how much you want to talk about me but I promise you former Eton headmasters are unlikely to be on the left of the political spectrum. Or, to be fair, most QT pundits at all.
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Didnt say they were - QT naturally has far left / right audiences as its shock jock television with no place for sensible discussion.
 
mellowblue said:
How the feck do you "know" this? You winge loud enough on this and other forums....you must be far left according to your theory. Unless of course you are far right. And no one even a tinge left watches QT... Mostly a centre right/right wing outlet.
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Anyone who speaks to the average Joe knows it.

If Labour knew it they wouldn't have lost the working classes to the Tories.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Anyone who speaks to the average Joe knows it.

If Labour knew it they wouldn't have lost the working classes to the Tories.
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Who is the "average Joe"? Is there an average Joanna? What does that phrase even mean? Starmer, if he continues on the course he has set out will be definitively centre right, and will be able to form a coalition with the Tories, just as the other right thinking centrists did in 2010...the fibdems...and look where that led us.
 
mellowblue said:
Who is the "average Joe"? Is there an average Joanna? What does that phrase even mean? Starmer, if he continues on the course he has set out will be definitively centre right, and will be able to form a coalition with the Tories, just as the other right thinking centrists did in 2010...the fibdems...and look where that led us.
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Wouldn't say Starmers cente right tbh mate - I still think he's too far to the left for my liking.

If he was more to the centre he would definitely have my vote- but I'll wait and see what he has to offer in the coming months.

One thing I'll say is FPTP is the FFP of politics - destroys choice and has us stuck choosing between two out of touch parties.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Wouldn't say Starmers cente right tbh mate - I still think he's too far to the left for my liking.

If he was more to the centre he would definitely have my vote- but I'll wait and see what he has to offer in the coming months.

One thing I'll say is FPTP is the FFP of politics - destroys choice and has us stuck choosing between two out of touch parties.
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Believe me he is... What does that make you? Tory, ukip, Brexit, fibdem? not Labour as far as I can discern.
 
ForeverBlue92 said:
Wouldn't say Starmers cente right tbh mate - I still think he's too far to the left for my liking.

If he was more to the centre he would definitely have my vote- but I'll wait and see what he has to offer in the coming months.

One thing I'll say is FPTP is the FFP of politics - destroys choice and has us stuck choosing between two out of touch parties.
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Can you explain which electoral system you favour and why? I just can’t quite follow your FFP analogy.

Also, you are wrong on Starmer unless you’re admitting you’re quite right wing?
 
mellowblue said:
Believe me he is... What does that make you? Tory, ukip, Brexit, fibdem? not Labour as far as I can discern.
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Im centre left on economy
Central on immigration
Centre right on crime

Just because someone isn't as left as Corbyn on every aspect of life doesn't make them a Tory...
 
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