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[Aberblue]

What are "moderate concerns" in your view?

Without wishing to put words in Spadge's mouth, I expect he means the day to day issues which concern most people - prices, wages, jobs, housing, transport and so on.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

What are "moderate concerns" in your view?

Non radical ones.

 

[Billy Dean]

I have the same experience. It is definitely a radical thing and not a moderate concern, in my opinion, rightly or wrongly.

I think you're right. But I think most know what anti-semitism is, so if you have a media constantly labelling Corbyn an anti-semite, the majority are going to believe it.

 

[davek]

Oddly enough, so was Clem Attlee. I expect he was a Tory too, after all, he came from a middling background.

Ha Ha Ha. Atlee was a notorious anti-Zionist. Pro-Market? Lol. He and the 1945 Labour Government were intent in intervening in all aspects of life to tether the market or roll it back so that the state administered our needs.

Clueless.

 

[Blues Harp]

Without wishing to put words in Spadge's mouth, I expect he means the day to day issues which concern most people - prices, wages, jobs, housing, transport and so on.

If folk were so concerned about the day to day issues as you identify, why then did they elect one of the most right wing band of incompetents with an 80 seat majority after enduring nearly 10 years of unneccessary austerity?

 

[Blues Harp]

Non radical ones.

Define "radical ones" please.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Define "radical ones" please.

@davek x

 

[Blues Harp]

@davek x

So you can't (or won't)...??

 

[tsubaki]

If folk were so concerned about the day to day issues as you identify, why then did they elect one of the most right wing band of incompetents with an 80 seat majority after enduring nearly 10 years of unneccessary austerity?

It’s almost as if there were thousands of people employed in making right wing incompetence popular.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

So you can't (or won't)...??

Sorry just in the middle of something.

Quick answer, if you identify as a Communist, BNP/EDL, or the like then you are in small, radical segment(s). I find that those fundamentally pro or opposed to Israel, seemingly obsessively and as a part of their lives fall into those sorts of categories.

Not got time for a back and forth but as @Aberblue highlights, the majority (moderates) are concerned about the day to day stuff, their lives, family, friends, and country, in my opinion.

 

[Blues Harp]

Sorry just in the middle of something.

Quick answer, if you identify as a Communist, BNP/EDL, or the like then you are in small, radical segment(s). I find that those fundamentally pro or opposed to Israel, seemingly obsessively and as a part of their lives fall into those sorts of categories.

Not got time for a back and forth but as @Aberblue highlights, the majority (moderates) are concerned about the day to day stuff, their lives, family, friends, and country, in my opinion.

1) I don't identify with any of those groups at all.
2) As I asked previously, if folk were "more concerned" about the issues you mention, why after 10 years of unnecessary austerity have we still got a "government" of right wing idealogues who have more in common with pond life like the EDL?

 

[tsubaki]

1) I don't identify with any of those groups at all.
2) As I asked previously, if folk were "more concerned" about the issues you mention, why after 10 years of unnecessary austerity have we still got a "government" of right wing idealogues who have more in common with pond life like the EDL?

Of course “moderates” is who they define themselves as; everyone else is an extremist

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

1) I don't identify with any of those groups at all.
2) As I asked previously, if folk were "more concerned" about the issues you mention, why after 10 years of unnecessary austerity have we still got a "government" of right wing idealogues who have more in common with pond life like the EDL?

Sorry mate, I wasn't pointing the comment at you or meaning to suggest you were a Communist.

The activist types, be they passive (keyboard) or active activists seem to have very fixed ideas that they feel we all should agree with.

I would say that one way to spot a radical is that they go from 0-60 in a second and tend to get upset and quickly if you don't agree with them.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Of course “moderates” is who they define themselves as; everyone else is an extremist

Think majority, its easier.

 

[Blues Harp]

Sorry mate, I wasn't pointing the comment at you or meaning to suggest you were a Communist.

The activist types, be they passive (keyboard) or active activists seem to have very fixed ideas that they feel we all should agree with.

I would say that one way to spot a radical is that they go from 0-60 in a second and tend to get upset and quickly if you don't agree with them.

Great idea for a series of books in the Ladybird idiom.
how to spot/identify a)Radicals b)Centrists c) The Majority d) Activists e) Anarchists f) Fascists g) Libtards h) Snowflakes i) Brexiteers j) Faragists k) I'm alright Jack, feck you lotists l) Apathetics....and so on and so forth

Difficult putting people into nice little compartments isn't it?