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Completely out of his depth. When someone is they either crumble or become obnoxious. He's the latter - of course.

At a time when we need giants we have political pygmies.

To be fair, that has applied to the whole country for flaming ages.
 
I understand the free pass the Tories get. After 40 years of neo-liberalism and the elevation of the individual over community, most people are battered and dazed by the falling edifice of that paradigm collapsing on top of them. They just dont know how to react yet other than to glumly plod on. The LP under Corbyn offered an alternative view of the world and it broke through the darkness before the Brexit farago buried its enlightnement.

Once people have gained some stability after this crisis they'll be rationalising all that's happened under the Tories and New Labour. A political-economy has failed them utterly and there'll be no more acceptance of it. The Murder in Chief in Number 10 thinks he can sit the crisis out and be untouched. He's deluded though. He and the rest of his class will be mullered after this industrial scale murder.

I'm not so sure Dave.

It is true that Corbyn offered offered an alternative view which did actually generate interest in a Socialist agenda, which we witnessed when May lost her majority. But I think that the people who are at the top (Bankers, Politicians, Media moguls and Corporations et al) were never going to allow a redistribution of wealth or even a better wage for the lowest paid, as this would mean less profit, less dividends and more importantly their ability to hang on to it.

They created friction between the middle classes and the sick and disabled by calling them lazy and workshy, thus gaining a mandate to free up huge sums of cash from the welfare budget in order to pay off the debts of Bankers.......for decades, which ultimately was a failed policy as the country still has a sizable national debt just prior to the current crisis. They did this and people still voted for them.

It is common knowledge that the NHS has been starved of cash and that the pandemic has hit it hard, but because of the lack of scrutiny over the issues generated by COVID19 I can see a situation arising whereby Hancock and our invisible PM are lauded as heroes for "getting us through this" which, short of halting the march of time, we were always going to do, good outcome or bad outcome.

Unless of course the invisible opposition start to speak up, but with Starmer already proving slippery where money is concerned, he will probably be a very willing target of the various lobby groups, and as a consequence will continue to be "missing" or deliberately timid on the important issues which affect us daily.
 
To be fair, that has applied to the whole country for flaming ages.
Depends what you mean. There's politicians who have been character assassinated to a point where they never got the chance to prove the value of their character and their political vision.
 
Depends what you mean. There's politicians who have been character assassinated to a point where they never got the chance to prove the value of their character and their political vision.

Maybe its getting older, and having a "different" few months to many.

But the quality of MPs across the board seems piss poor to me. Maybe its the political version of coppers getting younger.
 
It is common knowledge that the NHS has been starved of cash and that the pandemic has hit it hard, but because of the lack of scrutiny over the issues generated by COVID19 I can see a situation arising whereby Hancock and our invisible PM are lauded as heroes for "getting us through this" which, short of halting the march of time, we were always going to do, good outcome or bad outcome.

Unless of course the invisible opposition start to speak up, but with Starmer already proving slippery where money is concerned, he will probably be a very willing target of the various lobby groups, and as a consequence will continue to be "missing" or deliberately timid on the important issues which affect us daily.
You cant be serious?

You think there's a chance that HanCOCK and Johnson - having presided over a catastrophe that dwarfs all other European nations's experience of this virus - will be rewarded for "getting us through this"?

Not a chance. The anger wont be contained. It is obvious to everyone outside the cult that runs the Tory Party that the scale of the crisis here could have been minimized with correct preparation and leadership.

This isn't Brexit. There's nothing in this for the Tories other than an absolute hiding. They can be thankful it'll only be a political judgement they face too, because they really should be facing a very different kind of judgement.
 
Apologies if it's already been posted but can't be arsed reading through the last 10 pages: looks like the Labour Leaks latest is going to involve a major slagging off of Merseysiders and the North West in general.
Apparently when Corbyn did his 2017 rally at Prenton Park the right-wing scum at HQ were referring to it as Junkies For Corbyn. They thought all Merseysiders were thick or junkies.
McNicol and his cronies are awful, horrible people. Expect a lot more to come out in the coming days.
 
Apologies if it's already been posted but can't be arsed reading through the last 10 pages: looks like the Labour Leaks latest is going to involve a major slagging off of Merseysiders and the North West in general.
Apparently when Corbyn did his 2017 rally at Prenton Park the right-wing scum at HQ were referring to it as Junkies For Corbyn. They thought all Merseysiders were thick or junkies.
McNicol and his cronies are awful, horrible people. Expect a lot more to come out in the coming days.


 
Yes, mute the mic not the speaker. lol

That's the thing mate, How does dave know the speaker was being muted? because he saw mute on the screen? when my missus is on her daily directors call there is normally a different person who chairs it and they will have an order they give their daily update, when it's her turn she unmutes so everyone can then hear what she's got to say, when she is on mute though it shows up 'mute' on her screen, it doesn't mean she's muted everyone else who is talking on the call.
 
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Can't help but feel that Starmer's first couple weeks as leader have been disappointing.

I still don't understand where the myth of him being an effective communicator came from, and it's showing.

It's going to be a long five years.
 
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