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Blue 1 said:
Honestly, it's no wonder accusations of antisemitism fly. I've just been arguing with a Corbyn supporter who I was initially agreeing with over Johnson's anti-BDS legislation, which is sinister as hell and will undoubtedly lead to mission creep as it has everywhere else.

The guy then comes out with some utter nonsense about it being impossible to boycott Israel anyway as they "own all the worlds money and by default all it's companies".

I called him out on this and he bloody doubled down on it, literally saying "the world is run by a shadowy cabal of Zionists". I told him.why the remark was antisemitic, to which he laughed and said "Yeah right, about as antisemitic as Jeremy Corbyn". Wouldn't have it for a second that anything he'd said was antisemitic and by turn called JC an antisemite without realising it. Utter cretin. These people haven't an 'effin clue and really need driving back down the conspiraloon hole from which they came.
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That's why they continually deny anti-semitism exists. It's because they don't believe their anti-semitism is anti-semitism.

It's depressing.

Equally depressing is seeing Thornberry run for leader and the likes of Long-Bailey be odds on favourite for it. Effectively giving Johnson and the Tories another decade of rule with no serious challenge to them.

The far left entryists are as valuable to the Tories as any Tory could be.
 
peteblue said:
Elections are only about winning or losing. Winning an election can transform people’s lives. Losing just means you are an observer with the power to do nothing except throw stones and hurl abuse, although that’s what Corbyn and Co seem to enjoy most....
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Sums up you and your kind. You don't care about transforming people's lives, you care about keeping your little England nonsense.
 
Tubey said:
That's why they continually deny anti-semitism exists. It's because they don't believe their anti-semitism is anti-semitism.

It's depressing.

Equally depressing is seeing Thornberry run for leader and the likes of Long-Bailey be odds on favourite for it. Effectively giving Johnson and the Tories another decade of rule with no serious challenge to them.

The far left entryists are as valuable to the Tories as any Tory could be.
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It's all messed up like a plate of scrambled eggs, really. These people cause mud to stick where it shouldn't and they need to.be driven as far away from leftist politics as possible.

However, the majority of those that joined the Labour Party due to Corbyn aren't "far left entryists" and can have a good deal of value to the party if it doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Thornberry as leader will never happen. Concerned about Long-Bailey though. I don't think she's what the party needs but to be honest I'm still trying to fully digest what happened and haven't figures out myself what I think it needs. Not sure who.l I might vote for yet. I can see problems with all who've put their hat in so far.
 
zzr45 said:
I’ve said this a few times on here. Corbyn had an appeal to tin foil hatters. Not exclusively, but seemed to draw in the conspiracy theorist/David Icke crowd in quite well.

I almost guarantee if you dig down into it a lot of the Labour ‘antisemitism’ would have come from that particularly small but very vocal part.
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He did, but that isn’t really his fault and he never really sought out their endorsement. That he was criticised for it was a bit excessive to say the least.

There is a bit of a difference between him and some of the people the Tories have picked up, who are at least a racist as the lefts lions and who they have deliberately tried to appeal to.
 
tsubaki said:
He did, but that isn’t really his fault and he never really sought out their endorsement. That he was criticised for it was a bit excessive to say the least.

There is a bit of a difference between him and some of the people the Tories have picked up, who are at least a racist as the lefts lions and who they have deliberately tried to appeal to.
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Oh yeah I don’t blame him at all. I don’t think he deliberately went out for them. They have in some cases already turned on him and decided he was part of another Jewish cabal, turning the whole situation into an odd Game of Thrones.

The far fringes of either party is filled with lunatics. As you say the Tory rhetoric was far more targeted at the ‘nationalists’ of this country who don’t like immigrants.
 
dead_soft said:
Sums up you and your kind. You don't care about transforming people's lives, you care about keeping your little England nonsense.
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Of course I do, that’s why I believe it important to win elections...if you are happy being the party of permanent opposition then good look to you....
 
Old Blue 2 said:
Ted Heath. I was a TU Rep in my office at the time.
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The reason I remember the Labour one was that in February 1976 I received my biggest promotion ever. I worked for a Unilever company and was promoted to General Manager. (My company car went from a Marina 1.3 to a Rover 2.0 TC, which was great considering I was doing over 30k mileage a year) However, my salary went up by only 8 quid a week which wasn't much even then. Pay freeze being the reason given.
 
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