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[Bruce Wayne]

Sit down for this one. Corbyn's Labour just beat Thatcher's 40 government defeats by an opposition party.

Better to be lucky than great isn't it? It's an oppositions dream to be in against this shower of a government.

 

[davek]

My greatest concern with all this is the 'labour victims' of AS all tend to be members of the PLP or associated apparatchiks, which gives credence to the agenda and machinery against the rank and filw who tend not to be victims or witness to these accusations.

It is what it is: a desperate attempt by the neo-Blairitesto try and stop the reintroduction of democracy to the party.

Berger, Smith, and Mann all out or into another party in one week. Result.

 

[zzr45]

Sit down for this one. Corbyn's Labour just beat Thatcher's 40 government defeats by an opposition party.

More power to em tbh. Anyone not on board with that has a screw loose.

 

[orchard]

Better to be lucky than great isn't it? It's an oppositions dream to be in against this shower of a government.

Tbf they've had to battle hard to ensure brexit wasn't an easy nouveau's wet-dream, and as you demonstrate, it's a fairly thankless task.

 

[Pudsey]

Sit down for this one. Corbyn's Labour just beat Thatcher's 40 government defeats by an opposition party.

Most likely due to the shambles of the government than any great reflection of the opposition stance.

 

[roydo]

Most likely due to the shambles of the government than any great reflection of the opposition stance.

It seemed they were losing half a dozen a day a few weeks back! But them indicitive votes dont count I suppose.

 

[orchard]

Most likely due to the shambles of the government than any great reflection of the opposition stance.

Please see above.

I didn't see mp's defecting/leaving the Tories for the many disgraceful things they've done over the last few years.

A moderate degree of this mess is down to Labour, and others, making this government accountable to Parliament for how the leave vote was interpreted as opposed to the Tories railroading their capitalisation of the referendum through. They found themselves unprepared and to a certain degree unable to do so because it's unpalatable to many when exposed to the light of day.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Please see above.

I didn't see mp's defecting/leaving the Tories for the many disgraceful things they've done over the last few years.

A moderate degree of this mess is down to Labour, and others, making this government accountable to Parliament for how the leave vote was interpreted as opposed to the Tories railroading their capitalisation of the referendum through. They found themselves unprepared and to a certain degree unable to do so because it's unpalatable to many when exposed to the light of day.

If you're honest though, could you see any even remotely competent person (Andy Burnham for instance) not making similar hay out of such incompetence? I'm not sure there is anything particular about Corbyn's leadership that has contributed to the failure of the Tories to do much. The role of Hilary Benn, for example, surely can't be underestimated?

 

[Pudsey]

Please see above.

I didn't see mp's defecting/leaving the Tories for the many disgraceful things they've done over the last few years.

A moderate degree of this mess is down to Labour, and others, making this government accountable to Parliament for how the leave vote was interpreted as opposed to the Tories railroading their capitalisation of the referendum through. They found themselves unprepared and to a certain degree unable to do so because it's unpalatable to many when exposed to the light of day.

Yes, several Labour figures, amongst others, have played significant roles in blowing holes in the Brexit Dreadnaught. I remain unconvinced that Corbyn played any significant role in this.

 

[magicjuan]

If you're honest though, could you see any even remotely competent person (Andy Burnham for instance) not making similar hay out of such incompetence? I'm not sure there is anything particular about Corbyn's leadership that has contributed to the failure of the Tories to do much. The role of Hilary Benn, for example, surely can't be underestimated?

Nope. Corbyn has had to ride through the most vicious character assassination by the british press on any politician.
Even last week when the tory party kept shooting itself the media were questioning Corbyn not holding the tory stormnup for scrutiny.
Most people cannot see Corbyns strategy or policy because they've allowed their minds to be swayed, clouded or taken over.
Corbyn needs credit for seeing off 3 tory PMs through all of that too.

 

[Socrates]

The "LP institutional anti-semitism" charge is a complete fabrication.It's one of th greatest political cons of our time.

Shame on those carrying it out, and a massive appreciation to those in the Jewish Voices For Labour who stood tall to defend the party from the slurs from their own community. Heroes one and all.

Noticed how that seems to have gone quiet now the markets are in favour of a Labour government over a Johnson led Tory party?

 

[davek]

Noticed how that seems to have gone quiet now the markets are in favour of a Labour government over a Johnson led Tory party?

It tends to get brought up at strategic points, which is a dead giveaway that it is a huge con trick.

 

[Number_25]

The "LP institutional anti-semitism" charge is a complete fabrication.It's one of th greatest political cons of our time.

Shame on those carrying it out, and a massive appreciation to those in the Jewish Voices For Labour who stood tall to defend the party from the slurs from their own community. Heroes one and all.

Oh dave...

 

[davek]

Oh dave...

Those people are heroes: facing down (at great personal cost) the combined thuggery of the PLP, the Tory Party, the British media and the Israeli state.

 

[Number_25]

Sorry, but you've lost me here mate.