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Is that the hard lessons from yesterday have been forgotten. Replaced by selfishness and an idealistic never real entitlement. The aids boogieman and the Brixton riots are not present in minds now, the hard fought peace and to an extent harmony. The ku klux reform get in and it'll be violence three times a day, every day. Enable the bigots, enable the racists, enable white-flight with no where to run, and watch the uk burn. Army on the streets, national emergency, the end.

And why not, those with nothing have nothing to lose. If everyone loses we all start over from square one. "meritocracy" at last, regardless of cost.
 
You guys have no intelligent views. You all just pile in and make stupid comments which in a years time I will remind you of. Dave and I are political opposites but by christ he at least makes sense, the rest of you are like like sheep with the same intellectual views….
You know you’ve gone too far when you are claiming Dave makes sense. He’s easily the most unhinged and contradictory person in the history of GOT.

As for you, the bit that you don’t seem to be able to grasp is this.
You backed the worst PM in living history, to an embarrassing point of fanboy status, right up to the point his party got rid of him for turning a blind eye and lying again about a sex pest, which even for those scum bags was a step too far. You didnt seem to have a problem with it though.

You backed the most corrupt and inept government in the last 20 years.
Yet here you are, pulling apart every step of the new government 7 months in.
Why do you think people should listen to you with a track record of being so incredibly wrong as you have been for the last 6 years?

It’s clearly because you are a very arrogant and self righteous individual as your last few posts clearly demonstrate. Calling people “burger flippers” has just clarified once and for all what you are all about.
 
Not a great look, is it? Appreciate Pete has a lot of stress and this place is a release, but it's all a bit unsavoury.

He also claimed Davek makes sense. Wowzers. Time for a break.
Maybe I’m a bit hard here, but why doesn’t he provide for extensive professional help (at home), with him being on these large retirement plans and all…
Putting your wife to bed at 2 am isn’t ideal. Certainly not if you had two bottles of wine.
 
It’s quite sad really that ‘flipppin burgers’ is used as some kind of insult if that’s the right word. I have a nephew who works at KFC, he’s in university and the extra income he earns is vital to supporting himself through uni. He works hard, pays his tax on it I’m guessing and enjoys his job, personally I think that’s great.
I did similar in my early 20s and quite enjoyed the work but constantly felt judged by many of my peers and others. In retrospect it was good for me tbh.
 
I did similar in my early 20s and quite enjoyed the work but constantly felt judged by many of my peers and others. In retrospect it was good for me tbh.
And at the end of the day all the money in the world, the big houses , the flash cars, the multiple holidays, your perceived status… it means nothing. My mother in law is very comfortably off and worries for nothing either financially or materialistically…. Yet her partner of almost 50 years suffers from Alzheimer’s and over the past 6 months has declined rapidly… to a dangerous point now, she let herself out of the house in the early hours of Friday morning and was roaming the streets in her dressing gown and slippers looking for her father who passed away over 70 years ago….. I know my mother in law would hand over everything she has just to have her partner back for 1 day……. So yeah…. At the end of the day it all means nothing and when you come to realise that then life becomes a whole lot simpler.
 
You have to worry about the outcome of the next election.

I know its only just been over 6 months in charge for the current Government but the optics are not great. This is due in most cases to misleading stories and the concerted effort of the right wing press and its attacks on certain people.

The average man on the street doesn't dig into the detail and will believe headlines such as the vote the other week which in peoples minds stopped a national inquiry into Grooming gangs. It was clever politics and the media are fueling the outrage.

The constant stories about Reeves and the continued character assassination with a classic bit of misogyny thrown in for good mix have people thinking she is a complete fool.

The attacks won't stop, they will grow and grow and become more absurd. I removed myself from Twitter after the Southport murders and made an effort to ignore the news for other than work related stuff via Linkedin. The last few weeks a lot of anti Starmer and Labour posts have been popping up on Linkedin and its becoming more frequent.

I've been based in Teesside for nigh on two decades and the majority of people are not fans of Tories and the Labour party currently. A lot of quite intelligent people who i speak with via work and voted Labour at the last election are saying they won't vote for them next time now and also won't vote Tory. The gap in the market is pointing towards Reform.
 
It’s quite sad really that ‘flipppin burgers’ is used as some kind of insult if that’s the right word. I have a nephew who works at KFC, he’s in university and the extra income he earns is vital to supporting himself through uni. He works hard, pays his tax on it I’m guessing and enjoys his job, personally I think that’s great.

I did similar in my early 20s and quite enjoyed the work but constantly felt judged by many of my peers and others. In retrospect it was good for me tbh.
Quite. You'd think a Conservative voter, party of pulling oneself up by one's bootstraps and disdainful of the workshy, would laud folk who work. Who work to fund their way in their formative years. Who work to gain experience and don't feel entitled to a 'good job' straight off.

Maybe the sneers are because they know the conservatives do as much as possible to ensure such posts remain insecure and poorly paid. For the shareholders benefit.

Which, changing topic slightly, is also the reason this labour govt get a battering. Because despite being a neo-liberal govt, it's not enough. It's never enough. It will never be enough.
 
Really, wtf are you on about. I built telephone exchanges, the internet, submarines, fighter aircraft and naval ships, what did you ever do……
I posted a semi serious comment on the internet and you flipped your lid. Then doubled down. Then doubled down again. In retrospect I wish I hadn't as I actually feel quite sorry for you. Penniless, lonely, disabled me. Sorry for you.

I've got to stop antagonising you.
 
You have to worry about the outcome of the next election.

I know its only just been over 6 months in charge for the current Government but the optics are not great. This is due in most cases to misleading stories and the concerted effort of the right wing press and its attacks on certain people.

The average man on the street doesn't dig into the detail and will believe headlines such as the vote the other week which in peoples minds stopped a national inquiry into Grooming gangs. It was clever politics and the media are fueling the outrage.

The constant stories about Reeves and the continued character assassination with a classic bit of misogyny thrown in for good mix have people thinking she is a complete fool.

The attacks won't stop, they will grow and grow and become more absurd. I removed myself from Twitter after the Southport murders and made an effort to ignore the news for other than work related stuff via Linkedin. The last few weeks a lot of anti Starmer and Labour posts have been popping up on Linkedin and its becoming more frequent.

I've been based in Teesside for nigh on two decades and the majority of people are not fans of Tories and the Labour party currently. A lot of quite intelligent people who i speak with via work and voted Labour at the last election are saying they won't vote for them next time now and also won't vote Tory. The gap in the market is pointing towards Reform.
I spoke to a business owner nearby yesterday, he was complaining about not being busy enough, (he owns a building, sells tat out of a shop on street level, 2 flats above he rents) he explained how he is fearful in the next 6 months that there will be extreme joblessness because of 'the current bunch'. He went further, saying government shouldn't be talking the country down. I pointed out that the bank fiasco of 2008 still had to be faced and paid for. He couldn't help himself fast enough, "you've got to forget all that, and brexit and covid, got to start dealing with now, instead of talking the country down", 'who's talking the country down?' "the current labour lot, all they do is say how much money we don't have..." 'spending beyond our means got us in this mess', "yeah but you've got to be positive, attract investment, talking the country down is scaring investors away", "you'll see, in six months, we'll all be knackered, but at least we're not living in tin shacks eh!" then he fecked off.

Were these people (property owners, business owners) actually better off under the tory circus?
 
Quite. You'd think a Conservative voter, party of pulling oneself up by one's bootstraps and disdainful of the workshy, would laud folk who work. Who work to fund their way in their formative years. Who work to gain experience and don't feel entitled to a 'good job' straight off.

Maybe the sneers are because they know the conservatives do as much as possible to ensure such posts remain insecure and poorly paid. For the shareholders benefit.

Which, changing topic slightly, is also the reason this labour govt get a battering. Because despite being a neo-liberal govt, it's not enough. It's never enough. It will never be enough.
The irony being, the current headbanger leading the tory party invented herself as a 'burger flipper' way back when. A party of the people no less.
 
I spoke to a business owner nearby yesterday, he was complaining about not being busy enough, (he owns a building, sells tat out of a shop on street level, 2 flats above he rents) he explained how he is fearful in the next 6 months that there will be extreme joblessness because of 'the current bunch'. He went further, saying government shouldn't be talking the country down. I pointed out that the bank fiasco of 2008 still had to be faced and paid for. He couldn't help himself fast enough, "you've got to forget all that, and brexit and covid, got to start dealing with now, instead of talking the country down", 'who's talking the country down?' "the current labour lot, all they do is say how much money we don't have..." 'spending beyond our means got us in this mess', "yeah but you've got to be positive, attract investment, talking the country down is scaring investors away", "you'll see, in six months, we'll all be knackered, but at least we're not living in tin shacks eh!" then he fecked off.

Were these people (property owners, business owners) actually better off under the tory circus?
Many Brits dont like it when posh people aren’t in charge. People should know their place.
 
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