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NilSatisOptimum
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Actually don't believe its as complicated as its made out. Very sure it would disable the argument that immigration is the causes the lack of good affordable housing. Certainly in the circles i myself work and live in. The lack and expense of housing is often blamed on immigration, its a key issue. Myself don subscribe to this and firmly believe laissez faire attitude that favors multiple home owning as assets is key issue in the negatives that has built up around immigration. Not the only area that should be changed in housing, be a good start.
And your glib comparison of Benn is poor. His worries which were not his thoughts or initial belief's of the EU project. He was very much in favour of closer relationship with Europe in the beginning he came to the view, citizenry as the EU developed and how key roles within it were not part of democratic process. Suggest you read his dairies they strongly suggest another way to do the EU.
Work is good for mental health.
An uncomfortable truth for many.
Gives structure, routine, social interaction, sense of accomplishment.
People should be assertively supported back into work unless they have a significant functionality reason they are unable to.
NilSatisOptimum
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Work is also so a big cause of poor mental health. Can think of many over the years that work was the single factor to the breakdown in their mental health
There really needs to some safe guarding put in place, DWP will circumvent Mental Health Services at any opportunity.
Can think of one person I'm seeing tomorrow, very intelligent in their field. Goes about their life most of the time... Until the unexpecting acquaintance gets to close/over familiar etc. Put them in a work place they will kill someone, have no doubt about it given their history.
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Many years ago I met a gentleman in a mental health supported housing project. He was in his early 50’s and was a very well spoken and obviously intelligent man. He’d been in the housing project for almost two years after leaving a mental health ward at a hospital and was taking the necessary steps towards rebuilding his self confidence to enable him to live independently in the community. The reason he was there ??? He had a top job with whoever owned the famous Hamley’s toy store in London. He was by all accounts a very successful man in his early life. The untold stress of his job though finally caused him to have a catastrophic break down sadly.
It's generally considered a Tory mindset to assume that many, or even most people on benefits are actually scroungers who could work if they had to but choose not to. I'm not doing that.
That said, Labour are in charge of making the nation actually function. With the state of the economy as it is, relying on a dwindling working age cohort to support ever-growing groups of pensioners etc, it makes sense to look at why so many young people are 'economically inactive' and trying to help them re-enter the workforce, using whatever modern methods of help are available.
Labour's plans shouldn't involve threats of removing benefits from people to force them to go stack shelves (with apologies to any career shelf stackers. I have done it myself), it should be a way of working with people to get over whatever is stopping them taking those steps.
That said, Labour are in charge of making the nation actually function. With the state of the economy as it is, relying on a dwindling working age cohort to support ever-growing groups of pensioners etc, it makes sense to look at why so many young people are 'economically inactive' and trying to help them re-enter the workforce, using whatever modern methods of help are available.
Labour's plans shouldn't involve threats of removing benefits from people to force them to go stack shelves (with apologies to any career shelf stackers. I have done it myself), it should be a way of working with people to get over whatever is stopping them taking those steps.
Coincidence that I've just mentioned my shelf stacking days but this reminds me of a guy in the store at the time, middle-aged man (quite rare as most staff were students or part-time mums). He was amiable enough but quite quiet, and did have the ruddy complexion of a big drinker. Anyway it turned out he'd had a successful career in law until he had a breakdown from the stress of it all, and was happy to now just have a simple job (I guess he'd made his money and didn't have a mortgage etc to pay off on minimum wage, otherwise that's a whole new area of stress).
A tonne of resources get thrown at long term unemployed. Best thing to do in my opinion is admit defeat, and direct attention elsewhere.
You can’t make someone do something they don’t want.
NilSatisOptimum
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Indeed tends to be charities we use for back to work purposes . And mental health services are in much worse state now. Still long waiting lists for all health services, just cant assume people sat at home with fit note from GP are blagging it, there are thousands of people off work no doubt waiting for that secondary service referral into Mental Health...
In my workplace we support 7 young adults 16-24 years old who would otherwise be in emergency accommodation or street homeless. They are all in receipt of UC and housing benefit. Due to our hostel being a charity organisation you will appreciate there are additional costs as well as basic rent, there’s 24 hour staff, gas, electricity, internet access, insurances, general upkeep of the hostel and all the maintenance costs that comes with that. The monthly rent reflects the additional costs and currently the rent per month is around £1250.00. If any of the young people were to gain employment then they would be liable to pay that rental cost. None of them are ever going to be able to afford that. It’s very frustrating from our perspective as we are trying to set these young people up for independent living in their own accommodation but the system doesn’t encourage them to work sadly.
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Yes, I agree. To work is part of the very nature of our species.
However, to pitchfork people unable to because of physical and mental problems is the very definition of an uncivilised society.
Starmer calls such unfortunate people "criminals who game society". That's how much of a roaring house of a 'man' he is.
...then gain did we expect anything more from a man who backed a policy of cutting off medical supplies and food and water to the Gazans?
NilSatisOptimum
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I don't like the sound of AI being used by the DWP at all and further remove responsibility of individuals. Indeed politicians always seem to jump on technology bandwagons without properly understanding the limitations and ramifications when technology goes wrong. Myself would have thought the Post Office scandal should make any Government wary, in particular the one that paid the compensation...
Flavour of the white paper.
Labour’s DWP plans explained – from Jobcentres to disability benefits
Several major changes have been announced
www.independent.co.uk
there are 9 million NINE MILLION people of working age who are not working meaning we are spending vast amounts on supporting them and not on schools and hospitals etc. It is time to get people back on their feet, generations of people who have lost the desire to work. As long they get the right people back to work and not force genuinely ill people then it may just be a good thing.
davek
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This is a great example of how those who wanted the Tories out start backing Tory attitudes to benefit when it comes from the mouths of a Red Tory PM and his Ministers.
It really isnt! If you can work then what is the issue. Like I said, as long as it is not people who cannot work. The country is on its arse, I am happy to pay even more tax but we all need to be willing to get involved where possible.
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