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[Foot Long Hot Dog]

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Try the one from June of the same year Pete i.e. the factual one

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/06/13/how-britain-voted-2017-general-election/

 

[abelard]

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lol

I like how you chose the one from before the election, and not from AFTER the election, when the crossover jumped by 13 years!!!

 

[tsubaki]

Pete you are not at your best after tea-time, I'd give it a rest for a bit.

 

[peteblue]

lol

I like how you chose the one from before the election, and not from AFTER the election, when the crossover jumped by 13 years!!!

The numbers and the ages were irrelevant, the point being that there appears to be a link between age and voting intentions.......

 

[abelard]

The numbers and the ages were irrelevant, the point being that there appears to be a link between age and voting intentions.......

yes, more so all the time. 47 is no spring chicken. not a good look for your lot going forward

 

[davek]

The problem with this is that Corbyn, if he is to be a success, has to win by at least 40 or 50 seats - otherwise the Gapes of this world will become the most powerful people at Westminster and will have a veto over absolutely everything (in the same way that the ERG do now). Simply winning will not be enough.

Without a resurgence of Scottish Labour that'll be difficult. It'll be a small majority or hung parliament next time with Labour as the largest party.

 

[peteblue]

Pete you are not at your best after tea-time, I'd give it a rest for a bit.

It’s just that the things that I believe are self explanatory apparently need explaining to some on here.....

 

[peteblue]

yes, more so all the time. 47 is no spring chicken. not a good look for your lot going forward

Kids......

 

[abelard]

Kids......

This could be your Alan Hansen moment...

 

[peteblue]

Without a resurgence of Scottish Labour that'll be difficult. It'll be a small majority or hung parliament next time with Labour as the largest party.

The numbers don’t add up. Corbyn played a blinder in the last election and attempted to bribe everyone with freebies, May made every possible mistake and upset her natural supporters. Labour increased its popular vote by a massive 3.5M over the 2015 election, yet May also got an additional 2.5M and still had 1M over Corbyn. All the conservatives have to do is not hack off the electorate with a dopey manifesto again......

 

[tsubaki]

It’s just that the things that I believe are self explanatory apparently need explaining to some on here.....

Pete you were trying to explain why you thought Haredi women looked like giraffes the night before, and last night you thought the best way to showcase the abuse of the holocaust as a reference was to post pictures of Corbyn and Hitler together.

 

[davek]

The numbers don’t add up. Corbyn played a blinder in the last election and attempted to bribe everyone with freebies, May made every possible mistake and upset her natural supporters. Labour increased its popular vote by a massive 3.5M over the 2015 election, yet May also got an additional 2.5M and still had 1M over Corbyn. All the conservatives have to do is not [Poor language removed] the electorate with a dopey manifesto again......

You're living in a dream world. There is a Brexit Tsunami on its way for the Tory vote. The outrage amongst the majority of its party workers and voters at the sell out on its way will obliterate the Tories in all but their heartlands. The reason we might not see a clear enough LP victory is that forces like Ukip are likely to rally. Their membership levels are rising again.

 

[tsubaki]

The numbers don’t add up. Corbyn played a blinder in the last election and attempted to bribe everyone with freebies, May made every possible mistake and upset her natural supporters. Labour increased its popular vote by a massive 3.5M over the 2015 election, yet May also got an additional 2.5M and still had 1M over Corbyn. All the conservatives have to do is not hack off the electorate with a dopey manifesto again......

That isn't it at all.

The problem that the graph you ignored revealed is that the old way the Tories used to get votes - ie: rely on people acquiring wealth during their lives and look to protect it - is breaking down. Increasingly people cannot get on the housing ladder, they do not get secure jobs and they don't earn a decent pension. That means they don't accumulate wealth as they grow older and therefore they are less likely to vote Tory.

 

[peteblue]

You're living in a dream world. There is a Brexit Tsunami on its way for the Tory vote. The outrage amongst the majority of its party workers and voters at the sell out on its way will obliterate the Tories in all but their heartlands. The reason we might not see a clear enough LP victory is that forces like Ukip are likely to rally. Their membership levels are rising again.

That isn't it at all.

The problem that the graph you ignored revealed is that the old way the Tories used to get votes - ie: rely on people acquiring wealth during their lives and look to protect it - is breaking down. Increasingly people cannot get on the housing ladder, they do not get secure jobs and they don't earn a decent pension. That means they don't accumulate wealth as they grow older and therefore they are less likely to vote Tory.

Then let me put it another way. In the last 30 years only one Labour Politician has won a General Election, so what did Blair do or offer that Corbyn can do or offer.......

 

[abelard]

Then let me put it another way. In the last 30 years only one Labour Politician has won a General Election, so what did Blair do or offer that Corbyn can do or offer.......

as @tsubaki explains, the country has changed dramatically in the last ten years, and not for the better. Labour is the only Party that has in turn changed accordingly to address this, while the other two main parties are responsible for it.