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[COYBL25]

Interesting piece on the convergence of minimum wage jobs and graduate positions

Britain’s big squeeze: middle-class and minimum-wage

The strange politics of wage compression

www.economist.com

Particularly interesting is that by virtue of the minimum wage rising so much, every single graduate will now start paying back their loan as soon as they start working full time, so will be hit with a hefty tax rate. I wonder if this will deter many from going to university if they can get the same money in Starbucks but minus the student loan?

I was talking to a friend about this recently, as both of his kids have recently graduated.

Both of them have gone into jobs, where the starting wage is slightly below the amount where the repayments would kick in.

He said that it appeared that this is what some employers were doing to attract young graduates.

 

[edge]

I was talking to a friend about this recently, as both of his kids have recently graduated.

Both of them have gone into jobs, where the starting wage is slightly below the amount where the repayments would kick in.

He said that it appeared that this is what some employers were doing to attract young graduates.

Problem is a soon as they get a payrise they hit the threshold.
My daughter recently got a rise works for the NHS and they have been right onto her upping the paymens.
Not so quick paying back the money she has overpaid though , oh wait till , April ect that's when we deal with it.
It's a farce needs looking into.

 

[edge]

Aside from the grim comparison, I presume you're all in favour of removing the absurd ban on people working while their asylum claims are being processed then Pete? Then they could be self sufficient rather than rely on the state. Or, sit down, this is crazy, we make claiming asylum a whole lot easier, so people spend the thousands they give to traffickers here setting themselves up. @Rita_Poon I'm sure the BBC docu spoke about these outlandish suggestions, right?

Could see farmers being made up with that mate, cheap labour , if they complain/ refuse the job they get deported .
Put them in caravans on the land , and dock there wages for there keep,
Less strain on councils to house them as well.
Set up a agency with Pete you would make a fortune.
If you don't someone else will definitely do it.

 

[Rita_Poon]

Starmer and Co, Boris, Rishi and co have never done this, it would do them and the country the world of good to understand real people……

Are you aware of the piece of work that was recently elected party leader who decided that because she did a couple of shifts at mcdonalds when she was 16 that she was instantaneously working class?

We've had a situation in recent years of cries of 'cultural appropriation' and some of the fallout surrounding that. Are we to pursue a class embellishment, poverty-accreditation, goin-back-to-my-roots self delusion, to fob the worse off they've no place to speak?

What were the costs btw for your independent studies at the four learning establishments you mentioned and who foot the bill?

"achieve, do well, prosper, but stay humble - the next generation will throw up mavericks and high output talents" - is this the summation of your post?

 

[Rita_Poon]

Could see farmers being made up with that mate, cheap labour , if they complain/ refuse the job they get deported .
Put them in caravans on the land , and dock there wages for there keep,
Less strain on councils to house them as well.
Set up a agency with Pete you would make a fortune.
If you don't someone else will definitely do it.

Parolees as well, do as you're told or back to jail for you. Possibilities are endless...

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I’m more concerned with the tens of thousands of lower qualified people in the leisure, hospitality, food production, food sales, shops etc, who will lose their jobs due to business closures, staff reductions due to changes to NIC and its levels of kicking in. Unemployment is already rising, it will only get worse as this budget kicks in. I think it should be mandatory for all MP’s to spend a month or more working in the real world of shops, farms, pubs, restaurants etc before they are allowed to take up office, then perhaps they may comprehend. The elite will always be fine and will always look after themselves at the expense of the poor…

The elite will be fine they will insist the lower qualified people in the leisure, hospitality, food production, food sales shops customer's etc. Take the hit rather than elites share and bond holdings... Tesco making £3 billion a year complaining they will have find another £1 billion over 5 years with NI increase change. From the CEO not getting paid 30 or 40 times their average worker pay but 430 times more...

 

[edge]

Parolees as well, do as you're told or back to jail for you. Possibilities are endless...

Kemi would love this.

 

[bluestevon]

Should wipe the slate clean on student loans.
Then entirely fund the ones the country needs, medical, science, engineering ect.
As long as they stay in the country for x amout of years afterwards, so we get the benefit of it as well.
The rest can take a loan to pursue there life in art or whatever.
Love to know the figures for students that actually do a job connected to what they went to uni and got into massive debt for?

Besides for medical degrees I know hardly any who do, - a lot more did even 25 years ago, but mostly they were in industries that got downsized or left the country completely.

Now out of a ballpark 50+ graduates I know well enough to know their degree and job, maybe 3 use the degree in a sphere they studied.

A huge amount of modern degrees are frankly in joke spheres/subjects, the assumption that everybody should go to university is also fundamentally flawed - sorry but I don't see why it's become the expectation to go to uni now compared to how it should be - going to university to learn a subject which requires a much higher form of education than you can get up to 18, (medicine, law, teaching, the 'hard' sciences etc)

Just take two common place degrees nowadays, media studies, journalism, 35 years ago those working in those spheres likely started at 16-18 in the industry and worked their way up, now good luck getting into either without a degree in it. Has the quality of either medium improved from now being a place literally staffed by people with specific degrees in these fields? I'd say no it's actually decreased the quality in both.

So at what point are the degrees meaninglessness to even have courses in them?

 

[Charro]

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Pensioners have worked out how to get free accommodation, private medicals, free meals and free heating this winter……

Jesus christ.

You are woeful.

 

[peteblue]

All that’s missing in there is your dad was a toolmaker

Apparently your dad was a toolmaker…..

 

[Kurt.]

Apparently your dad was a toolmaker…..

KAPOOOWWWWW !!!!!!

 

[Harryflashman]

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Pensioners have worked out how to get free accommodation, private medicals, free meals and free heating this winter……

Really ?

Im feeling like you aren’t far from posting a sleeping lion dressed in a union flag

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Should wipe the slate clean on student loans.
Then entirely fund the ones the country needs, medical, science, engineering ect.
As long as they stay in the country for x amout of years afterwards, so we get the benefit of it as well.
The rest can take a loan to pursue there life in art or whatever.
Love to know the figures for students that actually do a job connected to what they went to uni and got into massive debt for?

There's a strong argument that art and culture is one of the few areas where the UK is still a world leader. We can talk about tax etc., but the cultural vibrancy of London is a key reason why people come (and stay).

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Could see farmers being made up with that mate, cheap labour , if they complain/ refuse the job they get deported .
Put them in caravans on the land , and dock there wages for there keep,
Less strain on councils to house them as well.
Set up a agency with Pete you would make a fortune.
If you don't someone else will definitely do it.

It would be a bit of a waste if we take people who are often middle-class professionals and put them to work in menial jobs. One of the guys I've been mentoring is a business graduate. He's forbidden from working. Seems harmful to everyone concerned.

 

[Yarrgh]

The Chagos Island deal struck by Starmer:

Farage: "There is, I can assure you, having been in America last week, knowing also the incoming defense secretary [Pete Hegseth] very well, there is outright hostility to this deal."

Steven Doughty Red Labour Foreign office Minister: "We’re looking very forward to working with [the incoming Trump administration], and I’m sure that they will be being briefed on the full detail of this deal. And I am confident that the details of this arrangement will allay any concerns."

Perhaps that weasel Farage could be asking questions on behalf of his constituents and not people whose backside cleanliness you can discern from the colour of his nose.