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Yarrgh said:
Perhaps that weasel Farage could be asking questions on behalf of his constituents and not people whose backside cleanliness you can discern from the colour of his nose.
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He'll seek to make maximum trouble for the Red Tories. Next election the Red Wall will be Reform's target constituencies.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
It would be a bit of a waste if we take people who are often middle-class professionals and put them to work in menial jobs. One of the guys I've been mentoring is a business graduate. He's forbidden from working. Seems harmful to everyone concerned.
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No problem from me , if someone is here and wants to work Bruce, better than sitting around or going into the black economy,
Only problem would be I suspect they would be very open to exploitation.
Was just making the piont in a round about way.
I havnt quite gone full pol pot just yet.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
There's a strong argument that art and culture is one of the few areas where the UK is still a world leader. We can talk about tax etc., but the cultural vibrancy of London is a key reason why people come (and stay).
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The vast majority of those taking media or acting causes are going to get absolutely nowhere ,
I wouldn't stop them following there dream if they want to , take out a loan like they do now.
Just think if the country is short of a skill it should be free.
Not really a fan of the whole student loan thing at all for anybody ,
to be honest, if half these students were not on a course they would be unemployed and we would be paying for them so why penalise them for trying to better themselves?
 
bluestevon said:
Besides for medical degrees I know hardly any who do, - a lot more did even 25 years ago, but mostly they were in industries that got downsized or left the country completely.

Now out of a ballpark 50+ graduates I know well enough to know their degree and job, maybe 3 use the degree in a sphere they studied.

A huge amount of modern degrees are frankly in joke spheres/subjects, the assumption that everybody should go to university is also fundamentally flawed - sorry but I don't see why it's become the expectation to go to uni now compared to how it should be - going to university to learn a subject which requires a much higher form of education than you can get up to 18, (medicine, law, teaching, the 'hard' sciences etc)

Just take two common place degrees nowadays, media studies, journalism, 35 years ago those working in those spheres likely started at 16-18 in the industry and worked their way up, now good luck getting into either without a degree in it. Has the quality of either medium improved from now being a place literally staffed by people with specific degrees in these fields? I'd say no it's actually decreased the quality in both.

So at what point are the degrees meaninglessness to even have courses in them?
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My lad is in his first year, so I`ve recently been through the " should I go to Uni " stuff.

I can only speak from my own recent experiences, but in my opinion some of the fault lies with the parents of some kids, who despite having quite poor grades, push them into going to Uni to do " non courses ", out of snobbery and the fact that they`re living vicariously through their kids ( kids sport is the same too )

The results day for A levels, was a real eye opener on social media, as apart from all the showboating / boasting posts, by the parents of kids who`d smashed their results, there was the other set of parents, who`s kids had got rubbish grades and been accepted to do a " non course ", and who found a way to spin that their kids had passed and where on the way to Uni - no mention of grades or the course they were doing !

Up until quite recently, there was no way these kids would`ve got into any Uni, it would`ve been an old fashioned Polytechnic or a College of Further Education.
 
Bruce Wayne said:
It would be a bit of a waste if we take people who are often middle-class professionals and put them to work in menial jobs. One of the guys I've been mentoring is a business graduate. He's forbidden from working. Seems harmful to everyone concerned.
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It is. It's common too. I'm not telling you anything new, but it's often the resourced and educated who get out. Because they're resources and educated. It's no mean feat to rebuild a life in a second language (in some cases having to be learned). There's scant help, but a lot of barriers and prejudice.

Kindness is in short supply.
 
edge said:
No problem from me , if someone is here and wants to work Bruce, better than sitting around or going into the black economy,
Only problem would be I suspect they would be very open to exploitation.
Was just making the piont in a round about way.
I havnt quite gone full pol pot just yet.
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Those in the informal sector are indeed very much open to exploitation. That's been well documented in America and other places.
 
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