I merely await today’s reason why Sir Starmer may have upset you Pete … nothing sinister on my behalf
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NilSatisOptimum
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Sort of ironic given one of the Brexit arguements , sold the idea that we could make trade deals with the US ,for our benefit...
Going to speed up debate rejoining the EU , as Starmer and Reeves will need to look elsewhere for growth because of the US trade barriers , anyway let's see what happens, as Trump can be nothing but unpredictable.
One might also assume that if Trump gets arsey about NATO/Ukraine that the EU would welcome a reasonably sized defence player too.
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Everyone has to react somehow. In my mind we have to be closer than ever before to our nearest neighbours especially if the guessing of Trump actions bare out, trade sanctions forced peace Ukraine and Russia. Uk have to do and react and do what's best. The framing of many political debates is going to change. Becoming closer to EU again suddenly becomes palatable and accetable to few more than it did last week.
Ah, rejoining or strengthening relations with the EU. I eagerly await the fume.
I'd be very surprised if the average joe re-evaluate their stance on all things Brexit in the light of contemporary geopolitics and economics.
Having said that, these calls to do so feel opportunistic and reactive rather than as a result of strategic long term thought. You'll just get the flip side if a more trade friendly administration gets elected stateside from Farage et al.
I'd be very surprised if the average joe re-evaluate their stance on all things Brexit in the light of contemporary geopolitics and economics.
Having said that, these calls to do so feel opportunistic and reactive rather than as a result of strategic long term thought. You'll just get the flip side if a more trade friendly administration gets elected stateside from Farage et al.
NilSatisOptimum
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The question isn't how can we manage Trump etc.? We can't we shouldn't. Rather, it's how can we best shield ourselves against the consequences of Trumps power and decisions.
You're not really making the hugely different point you think you are here.
I think you’re right , the irony of a huge proponent of Brexit like Farage hugely benefiting from its effective failure feels on brand for these times .
It does all read a bit worst case scenario but then again that feels on brand too .
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Just underlines what a fraud Starmer was during his time as one of Corbyn's shadow ministers championing staying in the EU. If ever it needed proving all that was just a load of old cobblers to make matters difficult for Corbyn this goes some way to doing it.
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Labour under fire for failing to name MPs for key EU role
Calls for UK to work more closely with the EU on everything from defence and trade to immigration grow following Trump’s re-election
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Just underlines what a fraud Starmer was during his time as one of Corbyn's shadow ministers championing staying in the EU. If ever it needed proving all that was just a load of old cobblers to make matters difficult for Corbyn this goes some way to doing it.
Labour under fire for failing to name MPs for key EU role
Calls for UK to work more closely with the EU on everything from defence and trade to immigration grow following Trump’s re-election
TBF that body is an irrelevance to everyone apart from the thirty lucky MPs who would be going on junkets every six months, where nothing of any importance would be discussed never mind agreed and the only beneficiaries would be themselves, hoteliers and ladies of the evening.
davek
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The signalling is terrible.
davek
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Looks real.
This one is very real though
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