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[davek]

Remember when my dad worked at Bejam (Iceland). And it sponsored a motor cross event. We had bike jacket and clothes tickets etc.

Yes, but did you also 4 years prior to receiving them tell the country via the media that you were anti-sleaze campaigners?

No. So it's not REMOTELY the same thing really, is it?

 

[davek]

Been looking into Lord Ali and the money he has gifted, who is what he, from very working class immigrant background. And one of few openly Gay Muslims. No surprise old white men in the media and their foot soldiers have an axe to grind...

Just listen to yourself. Look how much you're willing to turn yourself inside out to protect corrupt people, just because you made the mistake of voting Red Tory and you dont have the character to own up to making that huge mistake.

This is where you've placed yourself: defending sleazy Starmer and his gang of freeloaders.

They conned you and a whole lot of other people. Now you feel the need to avoid recognising that and defend the indefensible.

 

[Thomasc]

Just listen to yourself. Look how much you're willing to turn yourself inside out to protect corrupt people, just because you made the mistake of voting Red Tory.

This is where you've placed yourself: defending sleaze Starmer and his gang of freeloaders.

It’s the only choice we had at the last GE.

You were willing to vote for a guy who dressed and acted out being a cat on national tv you utter weapon.

Plus this freeloader stuff, it’s always been the case hasn’t it? Why’s it only bother you now?

 

[davek]

It’s the only choice we had at the last GE.

You were willing to vote for a guy who dressed and acted out being a cat on national tv you utter weapon.

Plus this freeloader stuff, it’s always been the case hasn’t it? Why’s it only bother you now?

Ha Ha Ha.

Basically: "Yeah, you're right. But come on it's human nature to cop for a bit of a backhander, la".

Utterly bankrupt.

This is where you end up when defending Starmer and his freeloading austerity merchants.

 

[davek]

Reeves (while defending her own bungs of course) stating there's no return to austerity...but then says there'll be no u-turns on cuts announced thus far by her and there'll be a need to look at departmental budgets...

Let's not forget the character of this woman: she was caught out plagiarising other economists work and taking whole sections from their books and shoving them word for word into her own book.

A complete liar and fantasist who'll lie her way through this position as chancellor.

 

[Thomasc]

Ha Ha Ha.

Basically: "Yeah, you're right. But come on it's human nature to cop for a bit of a backhander, la".

Utterly bankrupt.

This is where you end up when defending Starmer and his freeloading austerity merchants.

Highlight exactly where I have defended it?

You won’t, because you can’t.

But as I said, this has always happened.

So in your own words, I’m sure we’d all be delighted to hear why you haven’t made a big issue of this previously.

We all know it’s because when you have an agenda against someone or a group of individuals, you turn into an obsessive deranged lunatic and spill as much bile as you possibly can, most of it just being regurgitated to the point of tedium.

 

[davek]

Highlight exactly where I have defended it?

You won’t, because you can’t.

But as I said, this has always happened.

So in your own words, I’m sure we’d all be delighted to hear why you haven’t made a big issue of this previously.

We all know it’s because when you have an agenda against someone or a group of individuals, you turn into an obsessive deranged lunatic and spill as much bile as you possibly can, most of it just being regurgitated to the point of tedium.

The Tories are filth and everyone knew what they are. Why would I feel the need to say that their taking bungs was anything but par for the course?

But it's Starmer's Gang that said it'd erase that culture...when all the time they were indulging in it and still plan to do so. THAT is what it's being hammered away at now.

But you know all this.

Just holding your hand up and acknowledging you were conned with millions of others is all you should be doing now.

 

[Kurt.]

Hold on, this is a 'Labour' Party that used anti-sleaze as one of its main weapons against the Tories over the last 4 years. Starmer built his reputation on it. They had to have completely clean hands to avoid looking like hypocrites. But they haven't got those clean hands. It's no good you trying to sugar coat it for them by stating they claimed less than the Tories, because they still claimed hundreds of thousands of pounds between them in free clothes, tickets, use of apartments etc etc.

At a time when these rats are taking £300 off pensioners and telling families with more than 2 kids they have to take the financial pain, that is a monumental loss of face...and it's reflected in all the current polling.

They are going to have to work really hard now to gain any credibility. This is looking like a lame duck government 3 months into a 5 year term.

They never claimed for anything…. They were gifted these items.

 

[davek]

They never claimed for anything…. They were gifted these items.

Semantics.

They're taking bungs.

Maybe you'll dispute that...and if you do you may as well say the Tories weren't taking any either.

 

[Kurt.]

Semantics.

They're taking bungs.

Maybe you'll dispute that...and if you do you may as well say the Tories weren't taking any either.

Your mental gymnastics are to be applauded

 

[davek]

Rachel Reeves again:

She says this morning she accepted clothes from her "good friend" Juliet Rosenfeld.

A woman with links via her husband's Minerva real estate business who also set up a business with Goldman Sachs investment...


She surely knows the implications for taking gifts off such people.

 

[davek]

Your mental gymnastics are to be applauded

Mental gymnastics?

How much work do you have to undertake to say that 'Labour' ministers taking gifts and hospitality off businesses blows a huge hole in their virtue signalling over cleaning up sleaze?

 

[Kurt.]

Mental gymnastics?

How much work do you have to undertake to say that 'Labour' ministers taking gifts and hospitality off businesses blows a huge hole in their virtue signalling over cleaning up sleaze?

All officially declared I believe… so open and transparent…. Should magical contracts for large sums of taxpayers money come to light in the next few months then yes, I will question their integrity.

 

[davek]

All officially declared I believe… so open and transparent…. Should magical contracts for large sums of taxpayers money come to light in the next few months then yes, I will question their integrity.

That's alright then. Keep taking the freebies is ok from now on as far as you're concerned.

 

[Kurt.]

That's alright then. Keep taking the freebies is ok from now on as far as you're concerned.

I have no issue with it…. Large companies have always done this with people in the public eye…. It’s costing the tax payer nothing and as I said, it’s all declared and transparent